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Would please someone enlighten me how a target price increase buy of a company with a 3 years distribution/ manufacturing contract could fall at the announcement 2.3%? What do I miss ?

Tof while technically your statements about shorting are correct as mechanism they are mostly valid for derivatives where cash is not trapped into underlying stock. Indeed silly young traders like Vega capital
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9066923/TOWIE-oil-traders-make-487million-day-face-lawsuit.html had been technically able to short the oil prices on derivatives but now they are under US incestigation.

As we, the retail investors have access to all the trades records as the regulator requests now transparency these techniques could be identified with some basic analysis.

SP may be down also due to the UK banking sector being significantly affected by all the loses due to years of mis-selling claims, covid and Brexit so they are not prepared to take positions to create "new products" so UK stocks may be more affected by the US capital inflow/ outflow than previously; and now a lot of cash is in the UK mad valuations.

While I fully agree with you hat it is a degree of manipulation in creating artificial short term volatility created by these funds on stocks I am not able to see an argument hat it is done only on down side rather than on both sides of the curves.

On the other hand one has to be clear about one's strategy. If it is long term then the 5-6% dividend + just 2-3% SP increase pa GSK would bit the Ftse 100 & any actively managed funds. If one looks for 20-30% spikes in days than GSK is not the right choice of investment but a high risk tech start up, mining or any high risk ones. So clarity of strategy with aligned expectations may give one comfort to stick with a robust stock in spite short term downs.

ToffAppleton1 forgive my ignorance; I am more a statistician than a trader. Money could be made on both sides of volatility up or down. PF was driven down from 42 to 36 after their best announcement of successful start of distribution.

If I look to AZ unemotionally I understand in a way why the traders don't want to pay more as their gam is very long strategy and the P/E is the highest in the industry 52 while the standard is 22-30. So the traders want the cake and eat it, have a share but not wanting to be trapped. Especially that they have to do 3 M&A integrations in a year which is considered risk.

In Spite this artificial sort term volatility AZN for the past 5 years bit FTSE 100

On GSK I see another matter, despite that it is a very solid company it lacks selling vision and interested more in steady delivery. For long term investors who benefit form the div s well these daily ups and downs should be irrelevant.

Both AZN and GSK have major investment funds which are for long Black Rock, L&G, Vanguard who has up to 40 years span investments, if it would be rogue trade wouldn't they report it to LSE?

So What do you think is rogue hedge funds interest to keep the SP down other than releasing the funds nd not wanted to be trapped into unsexy stocks moving constantly the cash where the media headlines are like ABAB and Tesla which have unsustainable valuations but constantly in the media?

ToffAppleton1 thanks for the point, as I had suspicion but I couldn't necessarily figure out where the profit is for them. For a month now I download all day transactions and I se on AZ, GSK & BA. same pattern a very very large single NT (non crossing ) transaction and a lot of small ones and about 5% of transactions are a single share which makes the transaction in itself unprofitable if it wouldn't be another reason.

Have a look 45mill on a single transaction on AZN
tradeTime currency price volume tradeValue type micCode tradeType
2021-01-04T10:28:28.263 GBX 7,425.00 611,995 45,440,629 Off-Book XLON PRIC

The above transaction could not have been an offload as the price would have collapsed.

My assumption was that they try to create artificial volatility.

If a hedge fund have taken the position on 4,425 p then sell in small chunks how do they make money if they try to drag down the price?

Thanks J, I applied the filter on EmeraldCarrots as well to stop the distraction of his trolling

J, where is the filter out comments function? thx

QZQZ :) you don't seem to have properly read my post, but rushed to call it rubbish. I put under question EC's intellectual capacity to understand AZN and the 2 games of long term investors in value and traders moving BNs in one transaction as I provided.

EC feeds on your anger and you just play his game instead of smartly cutting the supply of attention to his ignorance. I hope in the future you will address me with a bit more intellectual arguments than "rubbish" like major trade positions or RNS as I provided to enhance the knowledge of this forum rather than trashing it into a trolling environment.

QZQZ no need to be rude to EmeraldCarrots, he can't do any better. He just look for reason not to invest and use this forum to reinforce his own thought process. This is fantastic as now we see that AZN has an intelligence enter barrier . The price is little driven by performance at this stage as large investment funds have cash trapped into US Market which is over inflated and investments which won't give real returns for years to come or never. Have a look below to the huge of book transaction yesterday. 2.8% Dividend is better than banks and a 5-7% pa in 2 years would bit FTSE. Have a look as well o AZN from beginning it always bit FTSE 100 plus almost every single financial reporting they ever had they bit the analysis predictions. I am here for very long and unfazed by ECs narrow, short sight and lack of basic financials and operational matters.

tradeTime currency price volume tradeValue type micCode tradeType
2021-01-04T10:28:28.263 GBX 7,425.00 611,995 45,440,629 Off-Book XLON PRIC

:) :) :) maybe it is a sign that they should change the branding :) :) I called it several times the same as it is a natural linguistic connection .... :) :) :)

It looks that the concerns of integration taking the management attention from sales is reflected in the Quarterly results
https://www.smith-nephew.com/global/assets/pdf/corporate/smith%20nephew%20third%20quarter%202020%20trading%20report%20presentation.pdf

They predict no growth for 2021

Could it be because of the interim results being negative
29/06/19 27/06/20
Turnover 2,485.00 2,035.00
Pre-tax Profit 383 -34
Normalized EPS 0.35 0.11

some large investment funds may be financially driven rather than being patient with the management to deliver the strategy. SN had a very HIGH P/E ratio even before the interim results announcement which may put off many algorithmic driven decision making plus the 2 acquisitions took off-20% of the share price as corporate investors don't like to stay on during the integration as it may fail and it is significant management detraction from selling.

Acquired company Deal status Date SN.:LSE since
announced Transaction
value
Rapid Recovery Pathway LLC-Assets Deal completed 24 Feb 2020 -21.52% --
MiJourney LLC Deal completed 24 Feb 2020 -21.52% --
Tusker Medical Inc Deal completed 24 Jan 2020 -19.68% --

When the acquired companies products will deliver results I expect the price to go up April May ......

O Dear Dear Dear EmeraldCarrots did it ever crossed your mind that these people had to work while we were in total lock down? They are as human as us with their family challenges, fears and misfortunes... they may have had family members affected and still had to go to work to do the R&D.

At the same time they got caught into an acquisition they had to handle as well as planning for speed manufacturing across the world.

I certainly hope not Pascal would be sacked on the contrary he had been stoic, focused and his modularised distribution strategy as proxy local franchises is genius. He demonstrated that he has long term vision rather a short term gain "Bloomberg PR " as Pfizer did.

Seaking1: I wish I would have benefited of your wisdom 4 months ago when I did some panik selling just days before some stocks jumped back. Since then I started to look to the large transactions and it is incredible the amount of UTs ; the most of them are out of hours and they change the spread for the day after. What it is frustrating is that sometime these deals are executed totally out of the spread points of the previous day and counterintuitively against the "news" .

SaleSale why do you think DX Group would move significantly apart from todays whole markey hyper? They didn't manage to have any robust strategy in the last 4 years and were flat

???? SMT = Scottish mortgage Fund???

The spread today changed and was pushed up by a single transaction on 7Mill which took place at 8:00 and which blocked the free market quote as it was looking for weak of heart people to sell
2020-12-29T08:00:26.303 GBX 7,509.00 105,818 7,945,874 UT XLON
This transaction pushed the price up 4% when they decide at the end of the day that there is no more news and using the people who bought at higher prices they may decide to go out partially and move the price down again unless some other institutional investor decide to get in at several Mill transaction...

The spread today changed and was pushed up by a single transaction on 7Mill which took place at 8:00 and which blocked the free market quote as it was looking for weak of heart people to sell
2020-12-29T08:00:26.303 GBX 7,509.00 105,818 7,945,874 UT XLON
This transaction pushed the price up 4% when they decide at the end of the day that there is no more news and using the people who bought at higher prices they may decide to go out partially and move the price down again unless some other institutional investor decide to get in at several Mill transaction...

Well, trading has little to do with fundamentals. AZN is the most institutional % invested pharma co in the whole industry. US investors had temporarily decided to move their huge amounts of cash in Tesla and AirB & other crazy sky rocket acquisitions. Mutual funds make money on volatility movements not from fundamentals. They move in cohorts and earning on the speed of positioning on these cohorts. Same it happened with BAE in spite of good solid news share price fell sharply as other investment opportunities seemed more easy to inv funds to exploit. It is nothing else to "expect" from Pftz they delivered the "news expectation volatility" so there is no reason for the inv funds to hold the money trapped until the next "expectation news" which will create the next volatility rush...

AstraZeneca plc
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http://www.proactiveinvestors.com.au/companies/news/39747/bullabulling-gold-drilling-targets-extensions-to-higher-grade-gold-prospects-39747.html? http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/53850/bullabulling-gold-kicks-off-higher-grade-resource-drilling-53850.html? Hoping to stop the slide and pick it up. Maybe the management start to understand how important is to come with progress updates for the market