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Don't give, but don't' you think, reading between the lines, a lot of these reviews are people who are.. trying it on? Eg:

'We went to the website and found no telephone number listed. ..... Now that is gone and we are unable to swap it to King size bed using the offer they had on at the time.'

So they wished they'd bought King size and are annoyed the BF price has gone, but perfectly happy to return (I guess it's their right in the 100 night offer) their perfectly good double at a loss to eve. I'm glad that people who are *realy trying it on* probably go to rival companies with 200 night offers.

And there's another couple who suddenly got bad backs *just* after the end of the 100 day offer, and then trying to criticise eve for last of comms. I guess eve focus their comms on genuine cases, fortunately. Bad reeves soon disappear into the archive, alone with the excellent ones. I think the average is the important thing and we are 4.3 (out of 5) atm, whereas I think we used to be at 4.4 out of 5 stars. Would be good to get back to 4.4 or 4.5

Ah, I see – answered on a different thread..
Morning all.

Bunsen, HUA is Home Use Authorisation. Which means people (ordinary folk like you and me) can use the test at home, just like the free Chinese ones which have some 'extra something' that the Boris's Government can see but we on this BB can't.

Dont give, my wife had her jab too and can't lift her arm much, but I'm completely fine. Nothing like the AZ 1st jab which put me in bed!

Not eve connected but I used to be in NNN which was hoping to sell cover killing face masks. I sold at a loss when they looked to be dead in the water!

They are +77.97% up today on the signing of a deal! They are still below where I bought but also shows how things can turn around quickly..

I recognise the quote from CC but I don't recall reading this piece as a whole:
https://www.thinkbox.tv/research/thinkbox-research/the-tv-playbook-for-online-businesses/

Interesting stats from the piece, esp as I assume we will get half price ads on Channel 4 before long?:

'Across the 10 brands analysed, TV drove 50 million visits at an average cost per visit of £2.11.
6 of the 10 brands we modelled had a TV cost per visit between £1.90 and £2.50. In comparison to generic search where the costs are hugely variable but a typical cost per click (visit) in gift delivery is £1-3, and in financial services £5-11.'

(eve SP today: Couple of nice 'buys' towards the close of the market.)

Hope this Twitter link works https://twitter.com/cherylcalverley/status/1469050670623899662?s=21

Yanis, you speculated earlier that no early December update this year is a break with last year's precedence. I guess that shows the trouble that 'good news' last December now makes this December look bad. Maybe she would rather have the pain now than in the future? Some of today's fall must be because there was no mini-TU as some though not all expected. But last year eve saw unprecedented and desperately needed good sales during Black Friday weekend. It was market sensitive info. What if she had sat on it and, as wyn said happens, a select few had got to hear about it first?

I don't really infer anything from the silence this week and agree with whoever posted 'so it's steady as she goes' a couple of days ago.

Maybe things are worse this year and news has seeped to the select few. Certainly we are not headed to 600 TP reviews this time. Just maybe CC will see the sp decline today and be tempered to get the figures out? But then the same thing will happen on December 2022 – and be even worse as that's when she predicted profit. Now she has the wiggle room to announce 'treading water' and get away with it.

I'm not going around telling friends and relatives to invest in eve. I do see we are sailing close to the wind. If I was certain things would pull around I'd buy more shares.

Well, the weighted blanket is out of stock which is of course regrettable...

CC said we’d be profitable in 2022 so I guess she has 12 months maximum before she’s wrong on that. Would be nice to have news this week but I shan’t hold my breath; January will do for me. Obviously getting the weighted blankets back sooner rather than later (assuming they are good sellers) will speed things up.

Wyn could well be right that people in the know have taken a hint that things are tough. But equally, when there were restrictions due to Covid eve rather prospered.

How does it look to you?

Momoni, I don't really have a plan. I just think the products are good, CC is good, and the market is moving online. If mood changes towards confidence in eve then people are clearly prepared to buy the shares as it looks cheap. I forget whether my average is 3.6p or 3.9p but I still see I could double my money. That's my plan really, and then see how the land lies. I do need to reduce my eve holding though as it's my major PF share.

Incidentally, I realised that the small pocket for door handles is the gift that vanished yesterday. It's been out of stock for a while.

Off for my booster now :)

Dontgive, you might be thinking of this, from 2019. It's from their Comms person:

'In terms of the share price, eve is a small and illiquid stock, with a substantial retail investor following. As such the share price can move substantially on reasonably limited volumes. Equally some of our investors are very short termist and want to trade in and out around newsflow. Some I am afraid may be unwilling to wait for the next news in September.

I hope that helps and reassures a bit. I am sorry that I can’t go further.'

Momoni, your average is higher than mine. If it takes longer are you ok with that?

As ever, happy to Rec you wyn!

Having said that, maybe eve is small enough to keep a relatively tight lid on things? Mike Lloyd didn't buy in October to waste his money. And October is 3/4 the way through the year. The people in the warehouse were sending out lots of stuff in lockdown but it didn't cause them to buy enough shares to raise the sp in advance of CC's surprise announcement of 'sales ahead of expectations' RNS. And it seems that CC has a better moral compass than our PM with telling the truth.

Even now we are down on not *that much* volume...

Your argument that money talks and the charts show that is pretty persuasive. I have noticed (and I don't think you'd argue against this) that your chart predictions are very good in the short term, but less good longe term. With ABDX you were spot on that a rise might come but then it fell back and all sorts of things have happened since then. But I know you work short term so it works for you very well. You would have made money on ABDX with your timings. I hope to buy long term as I can't manage to 'trade'.. ABDX have an 'Open Offer Entitlements Open Offer' and I think I should put a little more in at 25p. It's an expensive game this share dealing malarky.

In fact I've got some eve in my 'fund and share' account and intend to work that portion quite differently to my core holding, try to take advantage of fluctuations. I have to say it's not gone well so far! Hopefully news of the TU in January (or, and you never know for sure, possibly December) will change that.

Atvb, D.

Just in from eve. So they do read their emails quickly, and they've heard me suggest Habitat for the sleep-away range (even if it's a bad idea):

'You're absolutely right here, it seems this has escaped our team's eagle eye and we've now raised that copy error with them and this has now been fixed. Thanks so much for flagging this to us.

We're super pleased to hear the sleep away range has caught your interest. Unfortunately we cannot share sales information beyond what we issue in our Trading Updates, but we'd like to ensure you we're always actively managing the best channel strategy for each of our product ranges and we'll of course keep our investors updated on any progress.

Again D-Geeman, we'd like to thank you for your ongoing feedback and your active interest in eve sleep.

If there's anything else we can do to help, just give us a shout. Always here to help.'

Eve used to have big rises into the TUs. The market was guessing but the market guessed wrong then. The market learned not to guess too much and the rises into the TUs have become more modest. It does imply that the market is guessing now, rather than going on info. The market also didn't realise that the lockdown was good for eve until CC came out and said things were going well: that was a complete (pleasant) surprise.

Nor the CBD spike; out of the blue.

I am hoping that the market is guessing now, just like us..

13 October is not that long ago. Mike Lloyd is the Chairman.

13-Oct-21 13-Oct-21 Buy Mike Lloyd 3.26 GBX 300,000 1,500,000
13-Oct-21 12-Oct-21 Buy Mike Lloyd 2.96 GBX 200,000 1,500,000

I'm pretty sure CC will have her eyes on running eve as well as possible rather than the sp, which should in-turn be good for the sp.

Surfie! I have been wondering if you are still here. Nice rise at Xeros recently though only to where it was soon after a bought a small amount. It made me think that things could equally perk up here quite quickly.

I see that (presumably in response to my email last night) that the reference to the sleep mask has near-instantly disappeared: 'Be ready for sleepovers anytime .... a stash-away-able duvet, sublime bedding you’re looking for, we’ve got you covered.'

Yes wyn, could be that you are right. However, and I'm not even guessing, just pondering, the cost of marketing won't have changed very much and that was supposedly a big part of the costs at eve, and the fact that customer services are not great could be because they are busy. If they were quiet then there would be less to do. They were recruiting customer service people quite recently. They could be saving money to announce profit, or saving it to spend on Channel 4 advertising which will be half-price, and CC likes TV advertising.

Volumes look to be fairly low and people are probably jumping ship for a month as they see opportunities elsewhere with time to return here in January. I am slightly puzzled that TP reviews are not increasing fast with Black Friday people giving their feedback.

Even the most gloomy can expect a lift once the TU is announced. I wasn't really expecting a TU in December for reasons I mentioned here. Looks like today's fall could be people who had thought it still possible (me included) have noted that today, Thursday was perhaps the last chance for TU news in December. (Friday?? It's a long-shot.)

One question wyn, would the market know any better than us? Eve has been a tight ship so far. (I do remember a sudden rise at Xeros being followed a few days later by good news that nearly doubled the sp for a while.)

Anyway, I do tend to be the optimist so take it with a pinch of salt and decide for yourselves.

Good to be on this list. https://www.yourhomestyle.uk/home-decor/best-sustainable-bedding/

Bamboo needs much less water than cotton to grow which is a handy advantage.

Don’t give it just on phone now so won’t check but my recollection is that the hot water bottle is one size, but a choice of covering fabrics. So one fabric is £45 and a softer fabric is £60, so quite a good choice.
I’m not an expert but I think the water bottle is aimed at women with pains, who might be willing to pay a bit extra. I bet they will buy a fluffy kiddie bottle for £8 from Boots for their actual offspring :)

Don't give, they might need to update this in the sleepover section on their site:

'Be ready for sleepovers anytime ... or a nifty eye mask you’re looking for, we’ve got you covered.'.

Ironic now that they don't have an eye mask.

(In fact, I just mentioned this to eve, so they don't look silly. And also asked them about Habitat possibly selling the sleep away range. They emailed back automatically to say 4 days etc, but included info on sleep away stuff that could have answered my question. The computer must have sussed I was talking about sleep away and tried to help. I'm slightly impressed.)

Just looking at The White Company site. A box popped up asking me if I thought their site could be any better which I thought a nice touch.

I also noticed this when looking to see if they have phone numbers or on-line contacts:

'Contact Us

We are aware customers are experiencing extended wait times when calling us. Unfortunately, we currently have less people answering calls than planned at this busy time of year, but we are doing all we can to rectify this situation quickly. Thank you for your patience.

We're always delighted to hear from you.

You may find answers to your questions via the links provided. If not, please get in touch using one of the methods below.
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