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I read the explanation as there was going to be an imminent demand for cash and it forced AVCT to do what they did in the absence of deal coming soon

Further given the quick successions of cash calls also suggests to me the likely possibility that either data has been delayed or not conclusive enough, pushing back a deal hence still enrolling patients and causing cln to demand their payment.

Remember many here said the last round before this one dealt with cln as it bought the necessary time for deals to be done, yet here we are…. Again

No doubt all those arguments will be conveniently forgotten.

Rather than constantly polarising the debate I just offer an alternative explanation for the same info.

We are all aware that some raises increase the sp as it can be seen as one step backwards to go two steps forward.

Given some have said this strengthens avcts hand then why has that not happened?

RH made clear comments that suggest that this is going forward strongly. Given his record and reputation why has the sp not moved up?

Why raise money at 70p when the upcoming news will prove the platform and then raise either more or at a higher price?

If the news underwhelms the market then a later raise could maybe seen as a bit desperate?

These multiple parties suggest there is still not enough data to sign a deal. They don’t seem concerned that they may get gazumped by taking their time. So maybe it’s not quite as great or imminent as many here think?

It’s just an alternative scenario looking at the same facts

They were under no pressure to raise money when they did. Another month at this stage was not relevant.

If the data was substantial enough to move the dial then the multiple parties would sign. (And that implied chafing at the bit here of several suitors makes no sense to me. You pick a horse and if that blows out you go to the next best one.

This reads to me classic ambiguous snippets to allow over optimistic minds to draw the wrong conclusions.

Well, you would expect nothing less from me.

The sp ha not in fact gone up since the last raise (Chris). You can buy lower than when I think Yeboa claimed you would not be able to and cj stuck his neck out with a completely inaccurate forecast.

Someone posted that RH had in effect said the news was going to be great/fantastic a couple days ago.

That pretty much much insider trading so personally that is a red flag to me. And that the opposite is more likely.

I just don’t see any huge breakthroughs after 5 years, so I have prepared to be underwhelmed.

Yes the platform works, safe and delivers dox to the tumour but we and the market already know that.

Again I think the market might not welcome the recent hype and pushing expectations forwards yet again to some unspecified date in the future.

Thanks D. (I can heartily recommend the lkos brand!)

D-day here is fast approaching. Fingers crossed

Except saint, over the length of the trial the sp has gone down and no deal has been made .

But these are all positives?

Back to the ouzo

Russ, to make your argument you need the context of the sp.

I offer alternatives to a one sided view. that’s all.

Today was a no news rns. Goodness knows why it was released.

Anyway,right now I don’t see on balance a deal on Ava 6k.

If there were multiple interested parties then they could buy AVCT for 2b I Maine which seems chicken feed if the potential is to be believed ( a multiple of 5 times the current sp would do it.) so why are these talks stil Going on with all these other companies ?

That’s why imo ndas are used. It’s to protect AVCT.

Does anyone here expect astounding numbers this week?

So 5 years and nothing now a new trial. How long for that? Another 2 or 3?

Still, no rush

I don’t know if you have ever considered that it might be AVCT that insists on them to protect themselves rather than bp not wanting to tip their hand?

If after dd, bp decided not to proceed then AVCT would not want that to be made public

Obviously I have no idea what is happening these are nda,s after all, but I have never read a single post that ever has even considered this most obvious scenario.

Some might scream fud ( as they do), but if they do in attempt to dismiss this alternative then just be aware they. May have their own agenda

Ha ha ha!

Very Good Van, (that did make me laugh)

I think now Van on the back of no news, that the linkedin posts are exactly what you suggest:

"approving the latest photo shoot....surely there is more to it and not just congratulations for attending a meeting/exhibition/supplier or other activity that would be regarded as part of the day job. "

My experience of it was it was all about who liked what and it spreads your reach to their contacts blah blah blah.

The fact it applies to senior levels in companies is a little depressing vignette of this new age we live in....

If , and its very speculative, but if Schurter want to get cpx on the cheap they only need do a deal with our big shareholder and GC. That way there is no frantic buying and the takeover bid can be at a much lower level than if they were in the open market trying to get stock.

(I am sure some form of compensation could be worked out between the 3 parties.)

Plus if schurter are going to buy then what are they waiting for? Good public results will only suck in more buyers, pushing the price up.

Maybe its just ockhams razor....

Its simple in as much it relies for its accuracy on the belief in human psychology. If you "believe" in that, ie groups of peoples actions are predictable , then all a chart is, is the graphical representation of that group of people buys and sells which in turn suggest as what the majority think will happen in the near future. Under certain conditions (many psychological experiments have proven, peoples reactions are predictable.

The alternative is looking at the company itself and its fundamentals, what it does, what its finances are and competition, earnings/ profits, supply and demand and all the rest of it to define "value" and if the company looks undervalued you buy the stock. The argument against this is twofold I think.

One, its comparative against other like, but not the same, companies and it is a completely arbitrary ratio, and the second is the PI simply has not got enough data or even up-to-date info to make an accurate assessment. And the final drag on "value" systems is that the market already is looking 3-6-12 months ahead and has factored that into the SP

So on a chart, the conditions that are play to suggest it is predictable ie what happened before, will happen again, are the emotional drivers of fear and greed.

Charting (or TA) is often characterised as only good for gamblers but paradoxically it is better practised by a non-gambling character, as it is very mechanical and the trick is to remove the individuals emotions from the decision to buy or sell.

The other "advantage" of TA is that the practitioner does not know or care about the company itself, believing all the information necessary to make a decision is already in the SP. Personally I think when (and CPX is a good example), so much is unknown behind the scenes, so much is "old" data, what is the PI to believe and what to dismiss?

But the one indisputable fact is, what the SP is at any given time and as it is the only indicator that we all care about in the sense that is what we calculate our risk and reward (the cost of buying and selling) on, that everything else ultimately does not matter.

We can howl at the moon when we sell that the company is undervalued and the SP should be double what it is etc etc but it is irrelevant. It is what it is.

Therefore as it is the single indicator we can neither influence but rely on totally, it made sense to me to see if there was anyway of getting an edge by putting the SP front and centre of any system to improve the odd's of success, (given that NO system is fool-proof)

(Well done if you hung in there to the end.....)

Small head of steam starting top form on the offer I think

I love this share!

B2, your analogy if it represents what you think, is not what these BB's are for.

It is not a a collection of only one-view opinions where alternatives are not allowed.

It is your imo mistaken view, that just because naturally the bias will be towards positive outcomes as stock holders that no other view should be expected to be raised.

I think you description of a football crowd is correct for a football crowd in the UK and maybe most of europe, but not in the US for instance nor with most other sports such as rugby and the like where opposing fans mix agreeably.

I think it says far more about you than it does in your criticism about me.

And consider this.

I get defensive because I am constantly personally attacked, simply because of a view on a company that you don't shre. You and the others should think about that response you constantly use.

If you could find it within yourself not to be aggressive then everything would change.

And because I have asked for this before, it does make me wonder why none of you will let the personalised abuse go.

Again Ice, as usual your analysis is flawed.

Its not all or nothing and your perpetual, inaccurate drivel that my posts reflect my trading position is simply simplistically immature. It seem's to rest on the pretty stupid assumption you think i think i can affect the SP.

I try and provoke alternative views to my own posts to remind me why i still am with this stock. Chris does a sterling a lob with reasoned views. i don't always agree whole heartedly with them all but it reflects a more thoughtful examination of the positives.

It allows balance. The different views can only help the individual to weigh up alternatives that they may not have considered or given sufficient weight to and act accordingly.

God forbid thats what an investment BB should do.

Thats kind of you to say vaggie.

Oh, this board sooo lucky to have you, just think what the world would be if you did not do this selfless task.

(I have to say your antics do actually make me laugh, you are so predictably easy to wind up! :0))

But yours isn't although you respond to my posts almost immediately?

You just seem to get your jollies trolling me.

yeah, its me with the problem. ha ha

Because RR suggested the polar opposite of what I think and have stated before, in the form of a question. so I responded.

Look, get a life and stop piggy backing on mine.

and all you do is repeat the same questions to me a thousand times so you are exactly the same by your own history, and you have no problem with a positive spin being replayed as relentlessly as my views. The difference is you don't like my observations, and not for nothing its you in your post that caused this response.

So, as I say look in the mirror and get a life because its you rather than me that is large contribution to the "problem" you seem to have.