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PL, is there ever going to be a "time" when you don't say," don't look at the SP today look at it months down the line?"

And you think I am boring.....

Morning Sage, I agree and I do take on board the day is clearly not done yet.

I think maybe the brakes have been put on by the unexpected delay of CE? I say unexpected because I thought that was a rubber stamp via Mologic ready at the end of March and now its early May (which i'm afraid you have to build in some wiggle room so, on past history, more likely late May/ June?

As I say I am elated by the news, it does everything that everyone else is here posting about, de-risks the stock and gives yet more confirmation than ever, on the power of the Affimer technology.

Thursday at least should be more of a "fun" day then it could have been!

Roll on the orders!

That's a bit harsh JD, we have had our closing ATH 1 month ago of 274p expecting news any day then. The news comes out and we have settled at 255p. I expected more. Didn't you?

Or did you think then on the 15 of march, "once AVCT produce the best test in the world I can see this share about 10% lower than today"

Don't flame me for this but I am bit underwhelmed.

20 mins in and now the MM's are sorting it out ,its 260p.

I thought or expected around 350p plus when this news broke? Maybe the market is just waiting for actual £ orders to roll in which is ok I guess, and obviously the day is not done yet, but still, am I the only one to be elated with the news but just a tad deflated with the current SP?

Well, fair play, no hint of it yesterday.

I imagine this will be quite volatile today (albeit at much higher levels!!

This is going to play havoc with the RSI!

Hi D, well you are very kind and I am pleased if any of these ramblings are in any way helpful.

I wouldn't dream of offering advice on HE1 if for no other reason I am sure you know exactly what you are doing so the very best of luck with it and all the other investments, no, gambles, no, investments ha ha!

D: it wasn't that hard and fast. I looked up in the HL diary companies reporting that month and for those I didn't recognise I would look them up and do some basic research. If there looked to be an opportunity I would buy anywhere between 2 weeks and the day before results.

On the day I would play it by ear and sometimes sell straight away and sometimes leave it to the following day. It was a bit hit and miss particularly as some results were just plain good/great but the SP would fall 5%.-10% Invariably they would recover over the next few days, so I fine tuned it to only putting in half the amount I normally would and held the other half back for such an occurrence and then it was pretty much wyn/wyn, (see what I did there!) but if I had got it wrong then only half was committed with obviously only "half" the loss.

This is the approach I have taken with G4M, so I have funds ready if its good results but the crafty MM's shake the tree a bit to get a few stops activated then I can buy some more if I want.

All that has happened recently is that I have stumbled across what genuinely looks (to me) to be high chance multi baggers so I am giving them time to play out (and its killing me!)

But having said that AVCT has doubled since Jan (on a support level I identified and posted about), and AGL has gone up over 30% over the last 2 days but that has been much more "get in fast " irrespective of any TA because they simply were always likely to move quickly on the back of news or simply people taking the same view as me... just get hold of some asap. (Although 84p was an obvious resistance but when it went through it on Friday I'm not sure any PI could have bought then at that price.)

As you can see I would have to write a book about this but that's partly the problem and why some actively dislike TA, its not easily explained in just a few sentences and easy formula's.

EVE is a good example. most of me (nearly all) thinks this is a good bet over next 6 months, but I keep hesitating to pull the trigger. Something is holding me back. So I will wait, and If I miss this one, that's ok, you can't wyn them all (boy am I on fire tonight!).

So I am relaxed and happy to do 180 turns on a sixpence if something occurs to me that makes me completely change my view, which is why it seems I blow hot & cold so much over these stocks. (Its not been an issue in the past when, as soon I had bought them I was just waiting for the chance to off load.

So its a new experience and apart form all the abuse (ha ha) its nice to have a chit chat and share thoughts & ideas while waiting for events to unfold. GL

Infin, I am sorry I have failed to impress you and that you took my ramblings to be any more than they were.
What can I do now to reassure you, poppet?

BBB, my entry point will be when I feel more comfortable about EVE's long term future. Don't when that will be, could be tomorrow could be never. Its a lovely game. It's the not knowing that makes trying to solve the puzzle such fun. GL

Well, PP given you said "Rupert Hargreaves began his career as a proprietary currency trader and still trades on a daily basis."
I can only hope you have been in touch with him and told him what a fool he is to trade (he won't make any money like that, right?) and that he should have only bought one stock 6 years ago and left it at that.

Presumably based on him trading daily, once you have ridiculed him you will filter him...? What...? Sorry.... Oh, you think his opinion matters, ... my mistake. I get confused.

BBB, I know I know I promised but...

What will EVE's SP be in 18 months time?

(you don't know? Then why did you buy the stock?)

Truly that's it, I got nothin left.

Well, you say that D, but I now have a diversified portfolio of (high risk) bio pharma's and a small (high risk) miner.

(I don't count G4M as its just a piddling little stake that I will sell if the results give the SP a bump this week)

However, I don't know how covid is going to play out yet. Govt's have bankrupted themselves and there is now a risk of inflation in which case we are doomed (I will be buying gold as insurance shortly).

Least worse case might be higher taxes therefore less disposable income. In which case that's retail done, online or not, Ditto holidays, leading to higher unemployment, more govt stimulus and then definitely inflation.... (I'm normally a happy soul, really, I am!)

So green miner (BMN) because it just seems a good 2-5 year bet, and the 2 bio-pharmas are going to help solve covid and save lives through their cancer therapies which I think there will always be a market for.

So this is my risk-averse philosophy right now....once it dawns on me we are not actually doomed I will probably let my hair down and buy some EVE stock! :0))

I promise to stop now because as I say I never win with my logic so clearly it really is rubbish! so last go:

The timing of the potential payout is irrelevant. I am trying to define that there is no difference in the term investing as opposed to gambling.

If EVE does not go bust and in 2 years you sell the stock you will have either one or lost an amount of money.

(If you never do sell the stock then what's the point.... Ah! dividends you say!! but what if, (say its BP) and you bought for the Div's and then they have an oil well explosion and suspend the divs?.

Its unexpected but given, with all the uncertainty that come with buying any stock, that it is also a given that you don't know the future outcome, irrespective of the time the stock is held.

And we do all agree buying shares has a high level of uncertainty to the out come surely?

So my definition is that Investing is actually another word or way of saying " spend "and they are completely interchangeable in any context, whereas I understand the word "gamble" to mean unsure of the outcome of a future event.

"I invested (spent)money in EVE shares, gambling they would increase in value"

"I invested (spent) time with Firex & BB in the hope (worse than a gamble! ha ha), they would change their view "

I'll get my coat.....

So then Firex, if I go to the bookies and bet on a white Christmas for 2022, then its an asset because its set in the future?

I buy shares in EVE through a broker and they go bust in 2022.

Whats the difference ? :0))

Big boy, I don't think so, all you are saying is when you cash in on the bet can be different depending if its a fixed time event or not
That (in my book), is nothing to do with when you take the bet out and how you class it.

But I think I have never ever, in all my years taking to myriads of people, ever, changed their minds that they are not "investors ", they are "gamblers" so clearly my argument sucks! GL

I agree Firex, I have said it before, but its a crap shoot no matter what method is used to pick and buy stocks. Whether it should be or not is not so much the point, the reality seems to be more than ever its simply another way to gamble, and Goodness Knows, we all do like a flutter....

and also Firex there could be a third reason, which is to pass on experience?

how ever you dress it up Fire, its gambling imo.

For instance say you do every bit of research you possibly can and the stock still goes down. What then, what was it when you originally bought given that the stock went down instead of up?

Well, the clock really is ticking now. the SP I think has to appreciate over the next 2 days if the market believes that good news is coming out of the IP.

Given the potential in all its fields, I would expect the SP to rise into Thursday.

Chris its not my intention to pee on your parade, but the key here is that EVE are not making money. They are losing money. They have circa £8m in the bank that they have already stated will be used to fund a greater awareness of the brand in France. That means EVE are not expecting UK revenue to be able to fund this expenditure, which in turn, leads some to the expectation that the UK will still not make any money this year.

The bear case (and I am not expressing and opinion here), is that they have hit a wall in the UK and they are in a sense "forced" to spend what they have left in last throw to try and get enough sales to show a profit. by the end on 2022 (which is quite away a way, which in turn, leaves a lot to the hostage of "events)". France is deemed to be the best bang for buck at this stage, hence that's where the money is going.

The plus side is that the management team have done very well from when they took over and have steadied the ship ahead of schedule and are now sufficiently confident to branch out and use this time and the cash in the bank, to prove once and for all that EVE has a workable/profitable business model.

Time will tell but its very early days, hence the potential for very good SP appreciation from here. (If it was already a done deal so to speak, then the SP would already be 10p plus.)

Only bet what you can COMFORTABLY afford to lose.