RE: To buyback or not, is that not the question?26 Feb 2025 21:47
Damofarl, PTAL isnβt ONLY listed on AIM. Wakey, wakey. I'd never buy a company that's only listed on AIM. I asked for AIM examples because thatβs your turfβyou should be able to namedrop like thereβs no tomorrow to prove your case. You failed. Also, how the f can you not know companies like Novo, DSV and Pandora? It's up to you to prove that consistent and strong buybacks for low P/E companies doesn't work. But I guess you can't. Buying backs shares for #PTAL to fix the low SP would IMO also mean that #PTAL would skip AIM and move to higher grounds. But you can include former AIM companies on your long namedropping list. I'll be happy to research why logic and math didn't work on those companies.
You skipped the core issueβthat buybacks, by avoiding immediate tax, can create higher long-term returns for investors. Compounding is simply stronger. If you're 70 years old and live of dividend it doesn't matter. I'm not. You? Also, using dividend to buy more has a lot more transactional costs than having the company do so.
And what points "didn't you score" 6 years*60mm USD + cash on hand. Is that more or less than the present market cap of 445 mm USD? (Ofc. in the real world, where share buybacks work, it would take max 2 years to move the SP to a more reasonable level, more in line with peers and more in line with the analysts #PTAL pays to throw targets around - then ofc. dividend makes sense)
"Not least because if you half the shares in circulation, I still have the same number of shares earning the same dividend." LOL. With the same payout, the dividend per share doubles if the company buys back half its shares. I know itβs hard math for some, but maybe youβll get it? Suddenly the 0.015 USD becomes 0.03/share since that what's halving the share count does. You basically double your ownership while sitting on your hands.
Re. signal: They're telling the market that they're happy with the present market cap. At least for the time being. And that major shareholder doesn't give a f about retail investors or that the major shareholder is under heavy pressure. Giving 60 million away a year is not at all "the signal mgmt is sending out is their priority is in production, profitable production, not the SP. Not in in promising a quick buck, but delivering a long dollar." It's quite the opposite.
I'd rather have them drill 107 like promised in the IPO than the 25 mm USD in dividend.
"Consequently I've lost interest in why you are here." Ahhh, soooo sad that you're no longer interested. So sad. Sad panda here. You really hurt my feelings.