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"they announce the conference and the stock continues to drop, what was the point of listing on the NASDAQ?"

What do you think the point was?

Naked short selling (which is what's illegal in Germany) is where someone shorts stock that they haven't actually borrowed or even secured agreement to borrow.

"15 years ago in Germany the shorters of VW got a mega-squeeze and lost utter fortunes. Fascinating to read about. Shorting is now illegal in Germany!"

Crl, conventional short selling isn’t banned in Germany. Naked short selling is banned but conventional short selling isn’t, it’s perfectly legal. You made the same claim the other day but I couldn't be bothered saying anything.

In 2008 Germany issued a ban on the shorting of bank stocks due to volatility. Since then Germany has only once issued a short-selling ban of any kind and that was a temporary ban on one company, Wirecard, in 2018 following the reports in the FT.

Even last year when the covid crisis plunged the markets into volatility and several European countries issued temporary short-selling bans and/or market restrictions, Germany didn’t. BaFin, the German federal financial supervisory authority, pointedly stated said that they saw no reason to issue any bans or restrictions.

"Can’t understand why NHS trial is for older people, surely if you want to test for early stage cancer you would target younger aga range."

Because overall the most common risk factor for cancer is advancing age.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/incidence/age#heading-One

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/age

I filtered last week. All I see is glorious green.

Crl, I was being economical with the truth when I said I'm probably lucky to be comfortable with uncertainty. Genetic contribution aside it's not luck, I purposely work at it. It’s all too easy to get in our own way, investing mimics general life in that respect. Mental attributes such as those that play a part in our propensity for fear and worry aren’t fixed. We might all start at a different places but we can all learn, train, change and or improve them. What’s often the hardest part is accepting that we can, especially when doing so necessitates consistent and deliberate effort and work that is sometimes going to be hard and uncomfortable.

At the end of the day we aren’t force to invest and we don’t do it unknowingly, it’s a conscious decision. So the obvious immediate answer to your belief that worry isn’t something that some people can prevent, well when it comes to investing in the stock market, it is preventable. They can choose not to invest in it. Plenty of people who are fortunate to have the means to invest in the markets choose not to do so for that very reason, irrespective of whether it will be likely be good or bad for their wealth.

Assuming someone prone to overly worry is going to invest in the markets though then my first question would be what work and what strategies, practical and cognitive, have they done and put in place to help themselves. My sense is that a lot of people haven't or where they have they've done minimal.

If people don't want volatility then small cap pharma, especially a company that isn't yet commercial, is the absolute dumbest place to park their money.

SP is transitory, focus on the business.

yuyus, breathe.

No concerns here but then I'm probably lucky to have long been comfortable with uncertainty.

I invested in the business, not the SP, and the business is in the best position it's been in since 4D was founded. I'm also firmly in the camp that advocates only worrying about and focusing on those things that you can control. SP and shareholder value are outcomes, not goals. Strategise for and focus on the long-term and the needs of your customers. Do that and at the end of the day with a bit of luck the company will prosper and grow. If the company grows then those that invested and supported along the way will make a return.

https://www.iiot-world.com/industrial-iot/powering-the-trillion-sensor-industrial-internet-of-things-dream/

Who said 4d, or for that matter any microbiome company, is trying to solve complex diseases.

They're not trying to solve them. They are trying to help treat them with less associated side effects than current options. Sounds like a good idea to me.

No, not 40 chosen. More than 40 identified that will be evaluated. There's a big difference.

Listing on nasdaq has only been a flop if the intention behind it was short-term sp boost. It wasn't. It was done to give a platform for greater long-term growth potential and it does that. You don't need to look any further than the recent credit facility agreement with Oxford finance, they wouldn't of secured that if they were only listed on aim.

Of course, if you were naive about what listing would do in the short term and/or have the patience of a gnat then 4D can hardly be held responsible for that.

It wasn’t a buy, it was an uncrossing trade

Ok, I don't go anywhere near the advfn board so I'm not aware what nonsense gets posted there.

Keep patient folks. Everything's pointing in the right direction.

Yes I realise that Sangi, I know it's not the oncology update people are waiting for.

Someone noted that they didn't think mediocre results would be presented at a meeting and I was just noting that it happens regularly.

Having been to my fair share of medical conferences over the last 16 years I have no hesitation in saying that mediocre, non-significant and contradictory results are all frequently presented.

That said, it's a solid bet that the mrx0518 related work being presented by the MD Anderson Cancer Center staff will be positive if for no reason other than 4D are actively promoting the fact that it is being presented.

I’ll have a few more if they are feeling generous

I believe you soundsrisky, I'm not questioning that.

What you are talking though is your attitude to the risk of investing in 4D, not the risk itself. I should have included attitude alongside consequences in my original post.

Your attitude to the risk of investing in 4D is relative, the risk of investing in 4D isn't. They are two different things.

The risk isn't relative. The risk is the odds/probability of the news being bad and that's the same for everyone.

It's the consequences of the risk that are relative. For example, the consequence of a 10k loss (paper or realised) for one person will be entirely different for the next person and so on.