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You told us you sold this morning. You sold months ago and then jumped in again at a premium a few weeks ago. We're all doing better than you with research, thinking through the fundamentals and a bit more patience.
So why do you think we give a damn about your latest panicking justification? We made our decision. Now it's time for you to **** off.

'As you get older, and with time the amount of antibodies will fall, but the immune memory will then fire up and re-stimulate antibodies'.
And world at 1 now. Interviewer plays an extract to Professor Peter Openshaw:'Health workers, bme groups, care workers, Londoners have visible antibodies.' She asks if the continuing exposure of these groups is keeping the antibodies 'fired up'.
Yes. The t cells can be cross reactive to other related viruses too.

Absolutely Davde, it is indicative not conclusive and that is recognised in the caveats. But so far it's been summarised as more of a confident outcome than the report itself concludes. They are still saying 'we don't know enough '. In fact they know more than they are saying. If you take the secondary research (other related and recent evidence) into account we know it's 'extremely rare' to get it twice (Chief Scientist of the WHO). It's like the hypothesis is based on antibody detection equals immunity. The question about catching it twice has we assume only been vindicated by this study- no-one had it twice- yet again another big study says the same thing. And they conclude- we don't know if antibodies confer immunity? What? We do already know, visibility of antibodies wane after months unless we are re-exposed. And again, this study acknowledges they don't wane with re-exposure- health workers and care workers 'who have probably been continuously exposed' have visible antibodies. I am waiting for a higher level of scrutiny on this. Come on journos. Do your job.

Have we commented on the rest of the Mologic presentation? I am intrigued by the development of a 'new generation, combined antigen and antibody test'. Tomorrow will be very interesting indeed by the looks of it.

Second paragraph of the report says antibodies waning for all groups (different extents) except for health workers where antibodies remained visible. It's not really saying anything that we didn't know. The tests they used had only 82% sensitivity and have now been withdrawn by the MHRA.
So the two groups, health workers and care workers, who continue to be exposed continue to show active antibodies. No-one is getting it twice.
They will scrutinise these findings and recognise that more sensitive tests will be better to track the virus, antibodies work in tandem with T cells, B cell memory and antibodies and 24/40,000,000 people catching it twice, means that you are more likely to get struck by lightning than catch it twice. It does indicate you may only be able to categorically recognise you have had it, within 3 months of having it. But once you know that, you aren't getting it again as far as any measurable probability is concerned.

Yes it could do 80p easily. It exceeded that when the deal was originally announced. Since then the Times and the Guardian Business's Niles Pratley are tipping Marston's to survive and thrive as a bigger fish in a smaller sea. Did someone say Peel Hunt says 95p in the medium term? I'll take that.

Methinks the ladies doth protest too much? Not too late to dry your eyes and jump in guys n' gals. Price ain't going backwards whatever dumb ass nonsense you come up with.

Good enough for me. I think Marston's are going to pick up some steam on the Carlsberg joint venture. I am also invested in cv19 tests. The new generation tests are going to help us manage the pandemic much more confidently. Marston's will survive and thrive in a slightly smaller market with a few less competitors by the looks of it.

Korda, brilliant find.

Oops sorry. Should have checked the board before posting. Saying the same as Cavity.

Interesting. Tons of late buys showing together. Between £25-50k. Same as yesterday. Wonder if we get a TR1...bit of a coincidence?

Dilhard Doding! Lol. We're on a roll with the imagination insults.

Flustercuck! Laughing like an 8 year old at rude words. Good one though.

JS, yeah. I have done that kind of thing too a couple of years ago. Sometimes you get lucky on penny shares as I did more than once. But if there is nothing significant then shorters get on board and you get a crash. So you are making your money from someone else who is losing. Or you get all your year's gains wiped out. With a genuine high value, high growth stock like this we will eventually be handing over to corporate investors and pension funds so no-one gets hurt. My sad, lefty thinking anyway:)

JS, Some of them have too much risk for me. I got into ODX initially at 33p after the consortium was set up. I should have got into SNG because they were all over the TV but at that point the trials were a binary choice. I am risk averse it's true. Been burnt on penny shares. You can lose a lot of dosh on that road. I at least like to see very solid potential as there is here. No risk here now. Just a waiting game. A CEO saying 'believe me I am ignoring my own results but believe me ' is a recipe for disaster. Also I like shorter timelines for results. Done 7 months in ODX up 110%. Would have nearly triple bagged by now if I hadn't panicked when Dido Harding said something silly and I wrongly thought the price would drift further. I buy long- Rome weren't built in a day but I want the security of seeing results. I don't want phase 1 trials that can take years with multiple fundraising diluting the price. High growth value shares is what I look for- also reasonably ethical. Don't want to wait a lifetime to realise the value.

Blimey Regulator. You are practically a gambler! Well, at least you are on a winning streak as my Seychelloise granny would say.

I regret not getting any SNG. Reckon I will look at them for an option on moving my pension into a shares SIPP. Though there's going to be no point having cash by the middle of next year if they introduce negative interest rates.

All penny shares chasing fantasies. Plummeting too. IMM looks well scary. N4P hilarious. Got nowt but going ahead with nowt because investors funding them. At least VAL once had cancer uk involved but that was a long time ago. Amazing what people invest in when we are sitting on a dead cert bagger here. Interesting. I guess if people tolerate that much volatility which always leaves a lot of losers, no wonder people get impatient when you get a pretty stable mover like this. As soon as we get either the immunity report or MHRA approval, though I think the former will preceed the latter, we will get big investors in to replace Sneller and we will get to another level and just keep building nicely as sales flood in. In terms of 'spreading risk' I don't like much risk at all tbh. That's why I am in here. I notice on those penny share boards there's always a lot of talk about 'the weak'. Macho bull****. I'd rather be 100+% in profit, looking forward to bagging again.

VAL are mad. Thx for your tips. Sorry for changing the subject. Don't think much of most of those. Will take a look at a few. I want something to get in and out of because I am going to commit the cardinal sin and go in 100% here by next Wednesday.

Got another £15k to invest from something else I sold. Apart from NCYT there's really not a lot worth looking at in the stock market except ODX. I checked out N4P because Regulator keeps mentioning it. They've got bugger all. They've just done a pre pilot which yielded no results. Zip. No impact. But neither did the control group?!? So they're going ahead with a pilot because the control group got nothing either! Classic pump n'dump. Investors will be left holding the baby.
Might do Marston's for a week until the Carlsberg dosh comes in. Been tipped by the Times and Nils P in the Guardian business. Then bring it all here with the profits just in time for the investors presentation when we see what's what. I am expecting very good news. ODX always delivers.