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Solo it's probably worse than that, with so many exchanges and dark pools, it's really hard to know what's happening and when. I suspect though that this will be more than a little shake down. Low 430's looks very possible to me. But, no-one can see into the future and that's where the money is. You just have to do your best.

That level is holding for the moment, but that 500k would go further at 40p than at 50p, so over time it might be a good thing to see a drop. Not so comfortable mind.

Having said it's impossible to know, you can't help having a guess can you. Could it be the price of oil? That's still on the up and a number of 'eperts' from one discipline or another are predicting further rises. Some are also calling for higher prices as a result of your storm idea. Maybe it is your storm!!

I know there's not much discussion on this board with respect to TA, but I thought I'd just highlight that the price is at a very important level in my view. A close below 50 (I've taken that from Jan 17th 2024 and in my view it is the bottom of a range that has been tested a few times Apr 2024/Nov 2024/Apr 2025/Oct 2025 and today). This area has rejected lower prices on each occasion. I'd argue that a close below 50 significantly increases the probability that this stock will be sold down. There's a reasonable chance of getting buyers between 45.5 and 42.5, but if there is not significant buying around there, then 40 or lower looks entirely feasible.

It's impossible to tell what causes these SP movements, I've tried over the years and have come to conclusion that prices are artificially moved about to fullfill certain criteria. I fear that EZJ has significant downside risk from here (I've previously stated my views on it and they haven't changed). I'm still waiting for another entry.

Taking a stab at where price will go, I'll go with Sollers view that 460/461 area looks probable now (I have that as a relatively weak support based on a rising trendline from Sept to November and then a 460 area touch would give the 3rd contact with the line), but if that doesn't hold, then a relatively rapid fall to the low 430's seems not unlikely.

Athens, I agree. I think it will provide potential clients and easier way to access Ocado's offering and will slowly turn around their fortunes. We could get more larger scale CFCs but those are likely to be fewer and less frequent than the smaller scale entries. I believe their more flexible approach will pay dividends if they are not blind-sided by their competitors.

To add to PC's comments, is it worth considering Amazon as a comparitor? It took them 14 years of investment into growth and expansion before they turned a profit. I guess here it's a little different, it's taken 15 years for Ocado retail to turn a profit and Ocado have spent all that time investing capital into developing their automation suite. I'm no expert, but recent information published seems to suggest to me that we might be close to a turning point with respect to uptake of OCADO's tech offering (related to their more flexible approach to smaller business needs).

I still think that in the short term, SP will fall to 235/236, if that doesn't bring in buyers we could see 219/220 area and even back to 190/192 or below. I'm watching and waiting for the price to pull back. It either will or it won't and no-one can see into the future, but if it does, I'll probably be a buyer once again.

QF10, you are posting along the same lines. You arrived from nowhere and are apparently pushing your long agenda. Explain the difference between what you are posting what the people I've already filtered are posting?

Lots of good things have been happening, just for the moment they have not translated into sustainable rises in the Share price. In my view it will happen, but I'm not in the 'to infinity and beyond' camp. Many oil companies seem to work out how to spend their profits in ways that do not lead to spectacular capital appreciation for shareholders. I've not studied it in depth, but I'm guessing that it can be easily explained partly by the need to constantly replenish reserves. The business model doesn't seem to follow the kind of growth model that Tech stocks have. I think the idealism about SP should take that into account.

I'm surprised that so many people think that the SP will move up 'to infinity and beyond'. Take a look at a chart of SP vs major events in the history of PMO/HBR and have a think about what has happened, what it means and what you felt at each 'transformational' period. Now, do the same for BP. Why is BP not able to increase it's SP? The SP is doing roughly the same thing that HBR is doing. BP is a much larger company and you'd imagine that if it wanted to, it should be able to reward it's SH's with increased share prices. It really hasn't done much of that. Great as a trading/swing trading vehicle, but for building capital in a portfolio, perhaps not so good. Why will it be different for HBR?

That thought crossed my mind too. Musk and Trump are like two peas in a pod, except that they're both so toxic that they can't stand close together.

Muted response so far to Foxtons buying Fleetmilne in B'ham. RNS this morning.

I tend to agree with that Richmond. If you look at OCDO and YOU, both have been hit similarly and the only obvious co-incidental thing that links them is US exposure and Trump's stance on Greenland/Trade tariffs. I think the threat is 10% from Feb 1st with that potentially ramping up to 25%. I don't think for one moment that this is OCDO specific. I still think that the price could get banged down to the 235/236 area or even below. Maybe that would need some escalation of Trump's stance on Greenland and punitive Tariffs for anyone that disagrees with his view of the new world order. We'll have to wait and see. I have final results on Feb 26th? Anyone got anything different? Anything bad combined with an escalation of Trump's position could have this off to 191/192 or lower. I don't see it as a slam dunk long position.

Looks likely to fall to between 230 and 213p now. Let's hope it stops somewhere in that range.

I think you're right Athens. This price rise co-incided with JPM putting Ocado on a positive catalyst watch. Would be easy to assume that the buying was due to that and now there is some profit taking on the basis of there be no clear time line for the catalyst. Could drop right back to the 235 area in my view.

I agree with you fogthemogg and comments like this are designed to trap fools into dodgy lines of thought

"Tbh when it finally does turn, none of you negative nellies will make much money anyway because you're all gagging to get out at 240p, 280p or 300p. Only the ones with the stomach will make life changing money, because we know what we have here."

The people on these boards contribute the machine that rinses people on the regular wash cycle. Sittingduck I find the above comment about as useful as that of Sekforde that I responded to earlier.

Why can't we just stick to reality and share our views without trying to manipulate others? These bb's are truly cesspits.

"Can someone help? What has happened to the 150p club?"

Not sure that's helpful Sekforde, but for the record. I didn't add at the low 180's, didn't sell more at 210 and still consider 151 or lower to be reasonably likely, I just don't know when and I don't know what will cause it.

Worth considering that Trump wants lower oil prices. Apparently his tweet on Iran postponing their executions and the US postponing their strikes on Iran, had oil prices on the back foot at least briefly. We'll have to see how that plays out (my guess is that Iran won't be comfortable being 'played' by Trump). It's a game of patience and risk management in my view. The fact we've had rise in the SP does not mean we cannot have further falls in the future. Not sure why you needed to make that smarty pants comment. Not constructive and just as negative in fact as people claiming to have bought at the low and sold at the high etc.

"I would appricaite if you can share ur upside stradegy with ur tech knowledge."

For the moment Tunch the SP is in decline i.e. a down-trend. That's been entrenched from the peak around June 2024 (SP 332ish) to April 2025 (SP 146ish). Blair has sold something like 14 million shares (from memory; could be more) and who knows whether he's finished selling or not. So far, his sells (Oct 2024 and Mar 2025) have been astute as the SP has dropped from 285 to 146 after the two Blair sells I can remember (8million in Oct 2024 and 6million at end of Mar 2025). Worth noting we saw 146 in May 2025 so we've been that before. Since May 2025, there was a decent recovery in SP to 245ish (retail thought 360 was a reasonable target price and held their shares tight). In my view with O&G prices on the back foot, there's no reason to believe the trend will spin on a penny and shoot for the stars anytime soon (although it's not impossible, it's a long shot and I don't thing there is a rush to buy here). Until we see evidence of a trend change, I'm not going to concern myself with dreaming of the upside (to infinity and beyond and all that tosh can wait). I'm more interested in getting a good add price and a strong dividend stream in the future.

Areas to watch for buyers might be 180ish, 167ish (we might see a bounce around there; but in my view it will most likely be a swing trade before a continuation of the downside.

I don't want to set myself up as some sort of wizard, these are just my thoughts. Most of the time I do trade what I say on the boards.

Happy NY to you as PC, let's hope it's a good one. Might be a choppy one on the general markets if history is anything to go by.

YOU is pretty low volume on a day to day basis, with a strong institutional share register. Last time I built a position, it was difficult to sell out of it and I was able to get out at a fair bit below what I'd hoped to get out at simply because because there were not too many buyers. Makes it a bit risky on spreads and building in and out. But it's been profitable for me so far and I've been building in recently.

Fingers crossed it will work out again. There are other safer/better trades out there for sure and I'm waiting for them to get to levels that interest me.

I still maintain that YOU is in a consolidation period and that is most likely accumulation (I posted why I think that previously). For me this accumulation (if that's what it is) is continuing nicely, with little feints to the down side to try to release liquidity from retail holders. I don't think anyone is using stops here (again I explained why I believe this previously) so I'm guessing whoever is trying to get retail to sell is working on sentiment driven by 'the imminent crash' hypothesis or something else creating a uncertainty/negativity. To be honest, I doubt they're pushing many out at these prices, but there could be holders with much higher entries that might be stressed. Those on leverage (I'd guess not many here) might feel the pinch with the feints to the downside?

I'd be happy to hear other views (although not so much from Winner).