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Oldblue: You contradict yourself !

Oldblue: Make all of us shorters look like fools and tell us where the company states it has built the latest Charger. You must have some fact that you base your optimism on, otherwise you are simply desperately dreaming.

Oldblue: I don't think there is any information existing ANYWHERE that states a Charger exists or has been built since the statement about efficiencies and DfM changes were made.

Of course you'll waffle on about shorters, so you tell us where the information is that points to a state of the art charger having been built.

OldBlue: That is an excellent question "What are they testing "

Well according to the last update

....they will be returning to their normal engineering manufacturing sector and will therefore be able to assist with the testing of our microCHP boiler technology again.

They are testing the "our microCHP boiler technology" a rather unusual statement. They are not testing a pre-production Charger, a verification Charger nor a Charger about to be tested for certification. They are testing BOILER TECHNOLOGY - can anyone tell me exactly what that means ?

Note there hasn't even been an RNS stating, after years of development, that the design has even been finalised.

Come on JG let you employers know what's going on - they pay for your lifestyle !

Oldblue: EGM

Observer: This new site is not going well !

3. No contracts agreed for: third party testing to prove performance, no agreements for product reviews, sales, distribution, publicity, service, parts, packaging design, transportation.
4. No recruitment of staff to answer the phones for the thousands of orders, deal with warranty claims ...

The list is almost endless, yet absolute utter silence from Inspirit. I accept Covid has dropped a spanner in the works of many companies and projects but the build up to a large product launch requires a lot of planning - months in advance.
Not one shred of news that anything at all has been put in place for a future launch.

John Gunn needs to tell the owners of Inspirt what is going on - he works for them !!

Observer: That message didn't go well, to carry on !

2. No news of a approvals/certification program
3.

Observer: I doubt it ! By now the great launch of the Inspirit Charger should have been well under way, instead silence. What's more intriguing is the total lack of news flow for the supporting functions necessary for a product launch.
1.There has been no news of an actually verification product

Observer: Indisputably, from the INSP web site the charger produces 6.4 kWe from 20 kW of energy input. Indisputably 20 kW is all that ever enters the charger. With about 2 kW of losses then the maximum heat output while producing 6.4 kWe is about 11.6 kWt. I don't think anyone would disagree. The word simultaneously was used for many years but not now, at least on the web site. I don't think we disagree over the issue of outputs. I think wording of the update is also muddled, I think what it is attempting to say is the engineers were able to produce more electricity without increasing the amount of gas burnt, remaining at 20 kW input. Of course this implies the efficiency of the Stirling engine itself was improved by exactly 100%, a truly remarkable feat and a very neat figure particularly after so many years of development. This then ties in with our previous conclusion that some electricity can be sacrificed to produce a peak thermal output of 15 kW. But 6.4 kWe and 15 kWt cannot be produced at the same time.

l also noted another odd bit of wording " ... a unit for the shipping industry with current output of 11.68 kW. This is what happens when you pay your wife £12,000 to write your technical PR.

I always think the statements are short of substance and merely written to big things up.

Oldblue: There is no doubting Sterling engines work. The burning question is - do Inspirit have a commercially viable product I.e will it make you money?

Alternatively is it an eternal development project, it's 40 years old and counting !

The total output from a decade of work by a small back street garage in Sheffield is virtual nil apart from: a couple of snapshots, extravagant promises, uncorroborated claims, failed deadlines, departing staff, obscure specifications, no investor engagement, a questionable 2016 video, a preposterous forward business plan, total lack of news regarding the launch this year, failing to engage a business opportunity with a serious investor ...

Theses sentiments are echoed by CH, the man you've joined forces with. So I guess that puts him in with the morons ?

Old blue: I think it is plainly obvious to all on this board that Observer is pro INSP and I am, without any doubt, against.

I have a long way to go before I start talking to myself.

Oldblue: you are starting to sound like me! As Professor Darabkhani stated, the disadvantage of Stirling mCHP is they produce no electricity when not producing heat. If you can't use the electricity then you've bought an expensive inefficient boiler. Observer and I have agreed there are niche applications for a device like the Charger, if it performs as claimed, where heat is continually needed - ideally 24/7. The Charger is claimed to produce 6.4 kWe but this also means it will only be outputting about 11.6 kWt, pretty pathetic even for a domestic boiler. The principle of a secondary boiler is to boost thermal output during excessive demand only. The economics of the Charger, with the specs as per their website, will be difficult to assess in a domestic setting. I still have doubts that they have achieved a Sterling engine efficiency of 36%, I would have thought NASA would be banging on their door to take a peek but perhaps like the rest of us, they don't know where their door is! If they really have achieved 36% then the figures given can be explained by using 3.2kwe to produce an additional 3.2 kWt at peak times, to give a max thermal of 15 kW and max electric of 6.4 kW - BUT NOT NOT NOT simultaneously as they have previously claimed.

For a company that was going to launch their product this year, they are making zero progress. After a decade, no one knows what the device actually produces, apart from utter bewilderment.

I think JG was sold a pup, he thought a few grand, a lick of paint and bingo, a world leading boiler product rolling off the shelves. But, he did not appreciate the engineering involved or the difficulties in getting a complex product to market.

I look forward to CH uncovering the truth behind the magic boiler!

Oldblue: Every entry on LSE is an influence. The sun shining is an influence. Every fact and untruth is an influence. Am I not allowed to write because you don't like it? Because you may lose more money ? But to write glowing reports is applauded because it makes you money!

Go back to the Soviet Union

Oldblue:
Three points
1. I have no knowledge of anyone's profits or losses
2. The decision to sell or buy is not mine to make
3. A sensible person would collect as much information as possible before making a decision to trade.

Oldblue: Believe what ever you want. I'm sure you are well on the way to losing your money also. When it's gone, we can be certain it will be no fault of mine.

Oldblue: Which part is rubbish ?

why are there so many inconsistencies in the Inspirit story ?

For your information, the chap sat at the monitor in this video is Paul Booker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZerJ7BsIFI

I also noted that the 3D model of the Charger has no electrical connection neither in not out nor it seems the real version !
In the video view of both the old and new versions of the Charger the new one is shown connected via a large black cable to a distribution box on the wall but it's plainly not connected to the back of the Charger. Where is the power conversion electronics ? and where is the display to operate the device as was noted so many long years ago ?

Observer: If there is that much money involved and everything written was true, why has Inspirit been so pathetic in bringing the product to fruition. Irrespective of the merits of any device, they are on the verge of being overtaken by fuels cell technology and more dynamic companies in the green sector.

Observer: Now THAT is the $100m question . I say no.