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@Porper - I'm glad that someone else has the courage to say that!
Review the product branding - I get the impression it is the CEO being blinkered and somehow fixated that Cellular Good projects something to do wit Cannabinoids or cosmetics. It doesn't! The products look the part but the name has to change.
Not do a Donald Trump and use social media to big up the launch when it was clearly never going to be the 11/10 that they promised
Maybe in the RNS let the world know that the company are rolling the initial products out and give some numbers of products that they have ready to be shipped so that we know it's a launch and not just a few hundred boxes that may be sold out within a few days
@dodge - I don't think the company have pumped this but it is some of the regular posters here that have created unrealistic expectations with claims of personal messages and "facts" that have no substance.
Read between the lines and understand that most posters here have agendas to suit themselves. Everyone is here to make money but certain posters have made it clear they are only here for a quick buck and will ramp this as hard as they can so they can get out with a small profit having bought too heavily at a high SP.
If you've doe your research and are happy with the company then put the shares away and switch this board off as it is going to be traded heavily which will lead to plenty of volatility in the SP over the next few months.
The CEO made a big point about the importance to him of the name Cellular Goods. I don't think it achieves what he was saying and a re-think on that may be needed. It doesn't link the company to Canabinoids or cosmetics and hopefully the team will persuade him to re-think that. The branding certainly looks high end and will attract attention but please change the name!
R1bo - as this is the CBX board I suggest you take your well-intentioned concerns about the BOD to their board. It's interesting that your knowledge of the tobacco cessation business is far greater than their own BOD and advisors yet your knowledge of the price points of CBD oils is close to zero. I didn't realise I was in the presence of such greatness! Maybe spend more time concentrating on your investment here.
If you check your's and you slower twin's posts over the past month you will see it's both of you that raise that company more than anyone else. A psychiatrist would have a field day with the pair of you (if you are indeed a pair and not one and the same person).
The BOD here look good (as do the BOD's of many companies) and I have great expectations for them. I hope they earn their salaries and perform as everyone expects but we will only know that with time.
I have seen many companies where investors treat the BOD as gods - that sentiment is very much driven by performance and SP and that sentiment can change very quickly. I will offer you a wager if you like - as you are so obsessed with my "other investment" let's put £1000 on which company has achieved the greater growth on December 1st 2022 based on today's SP.
This company has the potential for substantial growth but it's going to be longer than a year.
@R1bo - you deem obsessed with me and unfortunately I appear to be living in your head.
Yes I am invested in other CBD companies along with companies in many other sectors. I am sure many people here are as it is a sensible investing approach to have a diverse portfolio. If that seems alien to you then maybe you need some financial advice.
Yes CHLL have dropped from £1+ to 15.5p but I am still healthily in profit having bought heavily at 5-6p. What is your point? If you only invest in shares that constantly go up then aren't you the special one!
If you want to discuss CHLL I would suggest you go on to their board but comments like they "don't know" how their sales are going shows how much research you've done on them. I hope you've done more here. If you can show me where the company have stated that they "don't know" how their sales are going I will gladly offer you an apology.
CHLL are focussed on the tobacco cessation and alternative market in the US and will do very well. You should be making comparisons with other companies (such as Love Hemp) but that doesn't suit your agenda.
For someone that has me filtered you do seem to spend an unhealthy amount of time talking about me and my investments.
Maybe you should let it go and accept that other investors have alternative opinions - last time I checked you weren't the arbiter of who can say what here.
You never had an issue when your best mate was having major wobbles and being very negative about the company so you cannot even be consistent.
@R1bo - I will be very happy to see the price rise as I hold a substantial amount. I'll share my strategy - when this hits 14.2p I will sell 50% of my holding and leave the rest to run as free shares. They will be held for the long-term. (I was tempted to sell this morning but the SP did not jump as high as I expected).
I'm not sure why you always object to an alternative opinion - it may come as a shock but your opinion is not the only one. As I explained earlier I think the oils are over-priced and will struggle to gain a position in the market but have a very different view on the cosmetics. I have given some justification why I have that view but have yet to see you offer any justification for your comments of why the SP will rise to x or y.
Gazzleberry - there is a big difference between the cosmetics side and the oils (ingestible). I think there is certainly a market for high end cosmetic creams and the range of price points available is pretty normal for that market. That is where the branding and marketing will work for these products from CBX.
When it comes to the ingestible oils I think that consumers are unlikely to pay 10x more for a similar product readily available off the shelf when given the choice. The drops are most commonly used for sleep aid and they work very well (I have used a number of brands over the past 18 month). It is the CBD content that is the active ingredient and when ingesting that is all that matters (as well as flavouring for those that prefer a flavoured oil). It's a bit like buying a paracetamol - the majority of people would buy a supermarket brand rather than pay 2x the price for a branded product.
What has happened is that the own brand products have forced the major brands to cut prices to compete and retain market share.
I agree that there are some concerns to be had regarding the quality and consistency of other products in the market but the majority of the products are guaranteed THC free and have proven to be consistent in quality and compliant. There will always be cowboy companies but the FSA (if they ever get their act together) will hopefully help redress that. I personally think that as a market that is traditionally viewed as "alternative" and a throw back to hippie culture the majority of consumers would sway towards a natural product. I fully get that sportsmen subject to drugs testing regimes may want the cast iron security of a synthetic product but the legal issue of cannabis use is very fluid and we are seeing countries legalising it worldwide. It is only a question of time before that filters down to some sports governing bodies as for 99% of sports THC would not be deemed as performance enhancing.
Looks like many of those that were ramping last night have bailed out this morning as there are lots of sells going through now.
A lot of people paid a premium by buying in first thing.
Switch the computer off and go for a walk as this will be erratic for most of the day but a dream for the traders
R1bo - I do not invest in one company only. Yes I am invested in CHLL and if you want to head over to their board to discuss them no-one is stopping you. I am invested here so feel that I have as much right as anyone else to post my feelings. You read the negative but deliberately skirt over anything positive I say.
I have been invested in the CBD industry for quite a while and have done plenty of research including site visits so yeah I know a fair bit about the industry but I am not claiming nor have ever claimed to know more than the entire CBX team. The fact that I was invested and commenting here before most of them were even on board is a side issue.
Yes I put my head up above the parapet and said that in my opinion they will struggle to sell at that price point and put some rationale behind why I say that. You are claiming that is rubbish with nothing to substantiate why. Please explain why you think a product that is very similar to what's currently available on High Street stores but priced at 10x their competitor's products will out-sell them. I doubt you will have an answer and will no doubt instead throw out some childish insults.
For me as an investor I am interested in what the rationale is for pitching the price point that high. It's a premium product granted but it isn't going to compete in the current economic climate at 10x the price of the competition.
If asking that question makes me a complete idiot then so be it. Maybe answering it sensibly will make me think more of you.
...and if you really think selling CBD oils is comparable to selling baked beans then maybe you better hadn't embarrass yourself with an attempt to give me your thoughts on the price disparity.
....maybe it's only available to serious investors
R1bo - hello at cellulargoods.co
Thanks for the kind words Amran - just because I called you out for your ridiculous ramping after you made it clear you want to get the SP to a price that enables you to sell up you throw a tantrum! LOL.
I don't really care what you think about my history here as I have been honest (unlike many) about when I bought and sold and re-invested.
I have also been honest about my opinion and have backed my opinions up with rationale unlike you who just throws random numbers out to please the masses.
My point about the picing is of a genuine concern - I am all for a high-end product but pitching the oil at 10x a competitor that is on sale in H+B and Hight Street stores is not (in my opinion) the best way forward. It isn't just the most expensive product out there it is in an arena that may not even exist with nothing that really differentiates it from other any competitor's products. If the images of the products are of the finished product then for me that is a massive positive although I do expect to see a different branding before the full launch.
We will see where the SP goes over the next few weeks. Yes I would imagine a rise tomorrow on hype (but not convinced there will be an RNS) and we will have to wait to see if that is sustainable.
I have never felt the need to filter anyone no matter how ridiculous their posts as both fantastic and realistic comments can often produce something worth thinking about. Closing your mind and keep the faith blindly is not the best investment strategy but each to their own.
Good luck
The company will provide the discount code shortly - not issued yet
Wow - I personally like the look of the products as shown (although that may not be how they are sold) but the company will struggle at those prices.
Compared to LH the oral drops are 25% of the strength (of their basic drops) and 33% of the size yet 25% more expensive.
A rapid re-think is needed as there is no clear advantage of using the CBX product over any others out there and at over 10x the price of comparable products this is hardly going to fly off the shelves.
That tweet is slightly disingenuous as there are already CBG consumer products available in the market. A quick google search will throw up plenty.
Keep the marketing factual and keep the interest going but don't go down the route of making false claims as it will soon be picked up and used against the company
@Rolanrat - this really is not about how the market receives the numbers or the sales in the New Year. You are putting the cart before the horse.
There have been the regulars here that post on a daily basis stating we are a day nearer product launch and the hype and excitement about that is what will drive any SP increase over the next few weeks. The reality is that product launch is exactly that - a fanfare announcement with visibility of the new range. I have no doubt that the announcement will lead to a re-kindling of interest in the company and many of those that sold out after the IPO excitement may well re-invest.
You go on to talk about the importance of how the market perceives numbers etc. That is true but you have to realise that sales numbers will not be available until much later in the year so I am expecting the SP to re-trace after the product launch as the company does not go from 0 to 100mph at the flick of a switch and unfortunately there are many impatient investors that expect the SP to double overnight.
Some here like to constantly compare this company to CHLL . Amran even posted recently that the SP was about to overtake their SP without understanding that the mcap here is already substantially more than them (and also Love Hemp). If you want to compare against other CBD companies then research Love Hemp and Pureis (and the cosmetics/ingesibles part of CHLL). You will see that these are established companies that have been on sale for a long time. None of them are anywhere near the billion dollar market cap that people like to throw out here.
The CBD market is certainly huge and one that will continue to grow over the next few years. The cosmetics/ingestibles/sports products represent only part of that industry and there are plenty of established companies with their share of the pie.
Can CBX take a decent piece of that pie? Absolutely yes! If the team get the branding and marketing right then there is no reason that they cannot compete to be one of the major players in the sector. It won't happen overnight though and the sooner that sinks in with some the more comfortable the journey will be.
At the moment I see the short-term money will be made by those that trade the share post-launch as I envisage a pull-back in the SP after the excitement but the real potential is to hold long-term if you don't like the thought of trading.
If the marketing team are planning on positioning the products as high-end and luxury items I certainly hope they do NOT go down the QVC route which is far from that
One point that you have overlooked is that a number of the larger holders you list are contractually bound to hold for specific periods of time so none of those would have been able to sell even if they had wanted.
That will obviously lead to some stability and keep the free float much smaller but as the contractual periods are reached some of those holders may opt to sell if they feel they can take a decent profit. What effect that would have remains to be seen.
...and with regard to bleating about taking the **** out of NHS staff I know many who work in the health industry in the UK and overseas and you are an embarrassment! Everyone I know in the health industry works ridiculously hard, gets poorly reimbursed and puts up with things that most people wouldn't. They deserve more.
You come on here claiming to be one of those wonderful people yet spend most of your day on the internet posting rubbish on chat boards. You are a disgrace and should be embarrassed trying to associate yourself with the real workers in the NHS.
I wouldn't take the **** out of any NHS staff but you are a breed apart. You come here and do nothing but disrupt the board and bad-mouth the company and individuals and then you moan because you think people are being nasty to you.
Maybe understand that you reap what you sow.
You have changed markedly from the Vas of a year back when you acted dumb (not hard) and were like a naughty puppy that most people tolerated.
You have now morphed into a very angry person with a vendetta and seeking attention. Looks how excited you got when you had a few of your gang posting how clever and insightful you are. Well hello! Reality check! You have shown your true colours and have resorted to the usual lies claiming to have bought low and made a profit. Haha. If you really made any money here then I'm not sure why the bitterness and vitriol that fills your life.
You need to take a look at how many posts you put on this board on a daily basis and ask yourself if that is what is important in your miserable life.
You have no credibility here and no-one is actually interested in your make-believe world that revolves around you so rather than moan about being a victim take control and start treating others as you want to be treated. Maybe you will find your life a little less miserable then.