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Aus, firstly. How can full fibre be risky. As has been mentioned it is the best delivery method we currently have, look at the Far East, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc relatively new networks utilise FTTP, same in a lot of Europe. Once it's in it just sits there as a passive network until we flash something down it, unless a human intervention takes place it doesn't go faulty like a matalic network, so very low future maintanence costs therefor allowing cost of services on it to reduce going forward. As I said there will then be cost savings on staff, tools, testers, vehicles etc, allowing costs to fall while still growing profit. What's not to like...

st st st stop repeating yourself la la Lamtree.
Good old Ronnie B...

Missing the point LT, still take dividends during that time...

News today regarding the speeding up of FTTP rollout is another good reason to buy, hold BT shares. At present Broadband, and other legacy products are delivered mostly over a Copper local network from the exchange. This network has inherent issues affecting reliability and speed, some of which are, corrosion due to moisture, interference from other products using the same cable, mixing copper and aluminium in the same route and many other physical and electrical issues. Once more and more services are delivered over a wholly Fibre network 99% of those issues disappear, the result being a far more reliable network meaning less people to manage it. Reductions in staff and there associated costs will then follow helping to improve the bottom line in regard to local network products. One of Its biggest day to day running costs is network maintenance once that can be removed income can be directed into other areas to increase income or develop new revenue streams. As long as Boris is prepared to assist as he has indicated then this share will see some very good return in the next 2-5 years, and a dividend.

I really do not see that the pension is an issue in any respect. The process to deal with the shortfall started in 2014, it was agreed with all parties in 2017 with a plan to remove the shortfall by 2030 at the latest. The scheme was closed in 2018 with any members still in employment moved into another scheme from that date but kept there rights under the old scheme when taking it. The new schemes since 2001 to date are not included in this arrangement as they are effectively an annuity scheme. the plan is as follows.

Under the agreed recovery plan, BT will pay a total of £4.5 billion by 30 June 2020, of which BT have already paid £2.85 billion. This £2.85 billion was made up of a £850 million cash contribution paid in March 2018 and a £2 billion contribution in June 2018. After 30 June 2020, there then follows payments of £700 million in 2021 and 2022, and of £907 million each year to 2030 when the final payment is made.

As this has been known about since 2014 and a plan in place in 2017 by now it will have been factored in and no longer an issue. At least BT is prepared to meet its commitments, unlike many others !!!

To late Fritz . AVRO no longer make bombers, but when they did they worked very well. Your cover is blown !!!!!

Yes LT know that, just trying to give a bit of levity to a conversation that is getting political again, and again it's starting to get nasty.

No Aus, you are missing the point. LT is getting his income from TopCashBack. Its not about the product, or how good or bad it is. Most of us get our income from Dividends, LT dose not want Div stock as he is earning from resellers, Wonder who has the higher annual income ???

That should read LIVE not line... sorry.

H-hi There is only ONE full UK wide Fibre network, its BTs . If you line in a big city, then you are problem only a few hundred meters away from a fibre node, a town a bit further say quarter of a mile, rural say 1-2 miles, really out in the sticks say a national park, about 3-5 miles. Virgin have a fibre network, only in large urban areas and then only selective ones, nearest to me is about 25 miles, other national operators even less locations and rely on BT to provide connectivity from there location to an end user. Nobody is going to invest the monies needed to build a second full national fibre network, it will only be to extend an existing one by a very small amount compared to BTs coverage.
' The regulators won’t F*** with people’s pension.' Well everybody else has, thats not a rational argument is it...

IT pains me to say this but, I have to agree with Lamtree about algos. The share at the moment is at a price where a lot of profit can be made using them if you have the funds, which the big investment boys have. Once it can start a sustained rise to say over 220-230 then the algos will look else ware. It will do this it will probably need some positive news for non algo users to buy in to get there.

As it rolls out, people will think they must have it because it's the latest thing, they now have 100m, 250m, 1gig, bandwidths they will never use at present. As the network evolves and more applications come along people will think they need it and sign up, the more that happens and the network grows, more and more people will get on board and prices will drop then more will sign on. At present 20m is more than enough for most users, but saying that 25 years ago dial up at 56k was enough, in the end we will want more and with FTTP it can be upgraded very easily. Just remember no matter how fast your link may be, you can only go as fast as the slowest link so ISPs will also have to upgrade there networks so more revenue for BT as they do.

At present not that high as only new build areas have been made ready for FTTP in the last few years. As a roll out expands I would expect a low take up at first but it will start to increase nearer the closing of the local copper network and prices will also then start to drop as there will be much less network maintanence needed going forward with far fewer faults occurring in a fibre network.

Can't find any evidence that BT Plc have made public any, lame excuses, such as those you mention.. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong places ...

Avrohom. Your judgment may be questioned but for others this share has done them well and will continue to do so. Prices will go up and down, BT has had its fair share of issues causing a drop over the last 4 years or so, but remember around 10 years ago it was at around 60p for a while, would you have been complaining if you were buying at that price, 6 years later it was worth nearly £5... No. OFCOM has been the biggest issue there constraints in the BB area has ment others have had network access almost for free, BT caused its own problem in Italy, fair enough, the Brexit issue has restricted investment from overseas during that period and may take a while to come back depending on how things go. Just remember there is a good dividend been had over that time as well and at the moment X div on 24th Dec is also priced in, as is Trumps actions yesterday which could cause some uncertainty for a while. It's easy to complain about the drops and not shout about the rises, that's human nature. It's only a problem if the price is considered low if you need to sell otherwise until you do it matters not. It's easy for the big players to work a share that has a low value,that they know is not a fair price and should be higher, cause it to drop a few pence, jump in, then sell when it rises a few a day or so later, making millions. They know its undervalued at the moment, once it makes a steady rise they will loose intrest, go and play with another share and BT will start to move on.

Avrohom. Corbyn had no effect on the company's performance but simply on the price due to his intention, that may have been difficult to forfill . Once that was taken out of the equation its effect was negated, and an additional rise with a conclusion to our withdrawal from the EU now on the horizon, some of the fall back from that may well be concerns about a no deal at the end of 2020 and may still affect values during this year. I think we will need to wait for the full report on BT in May before there could be a more positive outlook, or not... If OFCOM leave them alone and they are allowed to expand Fibre without having to effectively give free acces to other ISPs that will help things move faster in the right direction. Happy new year all.

An 8p drop ??? 6.1-4.6=1.5. So only down 1.5p when div accounted for...

LT You are certainly right about you being a strange one...

What a wonderful Christmas gift to us all. I look forward to a quiet new year now....Result.

LT there is clearly a fault condition on your service. Talk to them and if they say the line is OK ask them to get the exchange equipment changed firstly, next if it continues to loose speed over a few days ask for the physical line to be investigated. Start a log of speed say twice a day and use the connection speed or your router as well as a web speed test making sure you use the same test site. To get the router connection speed you will need to log into your router. Befor you do any of the above switch your router off leave it of for at least 1 min so you have a reference point for your records as that ma assist in faulting your connection.