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Onlyone.
I agree as far as it goes, but is the world not effected by rain forest de-logging, ocean pollution, sea levels rising, medicine poverty in the developing world etc etc?
This is not to belittle any of them, though are they not all important? russia invading or ALL nations acting for selfish motives causes problems.

Onlyone
I think you may find that it is also due to other factors, not the Ukrainian russian war.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/retail-inflation-in-india-surges-to-7-79-in-april/articleshow/91518110.cms
Others are similar. Obviously fuel and commodity inflation due to the war has had an effect but not all. Some is due to underlying instability I would think. My view at least, though I may be wrong.

Onlyone.
Do you know of the famines in the developing world? The effect of natural disasters, the poverty caused by mans inhumanity to man, present wars and civil unrest, the effects of global farming and living techniques on the planet? You probably do, in at least a superficial way. What do you do about it on an ongoing basis? Most of us are the same.
Such it is with the war in Ukraine, for me at least. I'm just an average 'Man in the street'. How can one share their time, their mind, their compassion with all these events? It's only when for various reasons they come to the top of the publicity barrel. Can it be any different?

Roxy.
I agree, the filter is available for those that may find others posts too nauseating. We are very lucky that free speech is available to us (many of those who use it here are not able to avail themselves of it at home) and we do not have to look over our shoulders (much) when we use it. Long may it be so.

Roxy.
As I see it nobody is trying to stop discussion, but it would help if people were more honest about their motivations (a vain hope I'm sure, as sometimes even they do not truly know). In times past, people have gone to war for genuine ideals, be it the Spanish Civil War or WW2. It is no longer that clear today, but how does a westerner (I live in the UK) put themselves in the shoes of a Ukrainian who has had their lives upturned, country invaded, house and/or livelihood destroyed, family members or friends lost or irreparably harmed and only see more on the horizon if they give in? Are those people concerned for the starvation of people in the third world? How could they be, their needs are more immediate, visceral and personal, as they would be to all of us. Would they not? I, as most here would like my investment to raise in value (though I am not underwater like some) but I consider myself lucky that I have a safe place to live and that my children have not been conscripted to fight or die. I hope for peace, but that is motivated by being old, being a parent and knowing the pain of loss. These things are life changing and are of real value, however one may think of politics, systems of government or money.
May the war stop soon.

Olpps.
Great post. Many posters here (normally the most prolific ones), seem to be driven/motivated by either rabid partiality or by money. The first group cannot go against their conditioning/masters instructions and the second group think that everybody in Ukraine should subserviate themselves to allow their personal investment to grow back to it's pre war condition (obviously the second group hide behind "Humanitarian" reasonings, but it's mostly just a front. It can be seen that whatever they may say, they are ALWAYS right and everyone else TOTALLY wrong. When vp is ready (either through ill health, pressure from within or without (Ukrainian advances in the war), then peace will ensue.
Lets hope that it is sooner and not later.

oldman.
Not at all confused, simply objective.

oldman
Anyway, this is a POG board. I'll say no more on this matter.

oldman
Try the personal insults all you like it's in print and the export and trade figures speak for themselves. You've been conned. Simples.

I have no illusions as to there being no corruption in the E.U. at all your link simply shows the russian influenced propaganda that inflates things. Now I'm quite sure that it exists, on what level I'm unsure, but I very much doubt that it's on the same level as that in the UK for the last decade. Why do you think London is referred to the money laundering capitol of the world? How do you think a telephone company gets a contract for £35 Billion for a track and trace system that they try to run with Microsoft office that never works? How does a rat extermination company get a £5 million contract for PPE? How about a nicker company for £200 million when PPE companies are being ignored? The problem with you brexit clones is that you can never honestly look at the real situation. I notice you say nothing about reece moogs assertion, why did he open an office in Belgium? Where can the man in the street do such things. Corruption is common across everywhere there is money, unfortunately you have fallen for the toffs poison and sentenced your descendants to a second class existence. I love my country and so found out about these things, shame you don't.

nathan
"Yep fair one I’ll take that :) apologies"
So, you're not all bad then.
I've had it with you know what. Back to our little Poly.
GLASH

nathan.
Hey now your an investigator! that brain is waking up! Bravo old chum!!
It's sleeping money, not a problem, for me luckily. It's wrong though that others are suffering due to tory double standards.

nathan
"It’s Sunday, I’m in relax mode ;) brain asleep lol"
You said it. Not me......

nathan
"Not following that"
Keep it up "Mate" you are doing my work for me!! LOL
One could not make this up :)

nathan
"Still won though pal,"
Keep it up "Mate" you are doing my work for me!! LOL

nathan
Yes. about 400,000 shares. And I only replied to your statement about the corruption of the E.U. You should not bring up fatuous, non related gibberish unless you can substantiate it. I notice that you have not. So maybe, you should take your swearing and insults and go over to your buddies.

nathan
"If you think that we’re are better off in this country st the behest of the eu then you need your heading taking off, we voted you lost, **** off you ****"
Typical high level thinking from farage sheeple. I rest my case.

oldman.
PS.
We can see the negative effects now, so 'only' another 48 years to go. This is obvious to all now. But as this is a POG BB I will not labour the point. Still never saw any evidence of major E.U corruption from your mate.

oldman
You should get your facts straight..
"Jacob Rees-Mogg Says It Could Take 50 Years To Reap The Benefits Of Brexit
'We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time,' says leading Brexiteer".
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jacob-rees-mogg-economy-brexit_uk_5b54e3b5e4b0de86f48e3566
That obviously means that it could take even longer, which also means that there are no benefits.
How long has he been in his latest job? No benefits yet I notice.

Nathan. I'm quite sure that many others think like you, but my question was, show some examples of where it is true.
I will not burden you with showing advantages of leaving, because I'm not that cruel. Please speak up any who don't agree with reece moogs statement that it will take 50 years to show any benefits. Remembering that it also by default means that for 50 years there will be mainly disadvantages.