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2006 - credit crunch started, I remember it well.

Obviously wouldn’t look for scapegoats though. But if I did, I’d make sure to mask the truth with pretend relationships with a minority group or two.

Probably Show some fake concern for the poor non EU immigrants who don’t get a fair crack of the whip

You know, hide in plain sight.

AW - sad & sick. I’d ask what has happened to poison you, but I already know & ive been trying to tell you.

Truth hurts.

Oh wait..... let’s get excited about pretending we don’t have borders whilst watching people stuck in Calais behind a pretend, not there border, whilst wondering why immigrants don’t just buy a one way ticket on the ferry....

& then let’s vote to damage everyone because literally none of what you’ve been told by ridiculous, bought and paid for press sources is true.

There you go that’s all the simpleton over-exaggerated nonsense in one sentence

Well done. Do you want to through in some really stupid stuff to get your ignorant bones juicing? Like Brexit means Brexit or how about Independence Day?

Perhaps you like some old Goebbels favourites like Will of the people, unelected judges (ha ha can hardly keep straight face) or what about enemies of the state

Could always go for some pretend euro army, we could pretend about a super state or what about the really dumb stuff like sovereignty & uk isn’t independent (whilst independently entering a couple of wars).......

Yeah rhetoric means it’s not true.

Hardly surprising the leave contingent are attracted to lies and liars

NDN - I agree. I also agreed with Pete’s view last week that this could actually help bBT retreat from some of its historical long term issues.

I didn’t realise the pension deficit would stay with BT but kind of makes sense now. That could prove interesting if interest rates rise or pension is recalculated by RPI to CPI ?

Anyway I’m still of the view this is very unlikely even if a labour majority miraculously came about. I would foresee a long list of litigation from other providers first.

Village he’s one end of the scale, you’re the other

Have you just tried googling Bt nationalisation then select this example?

I’ve just tried it on work laptop (needed to answer couple of questions) I could read it okay ?

Yes I’m pretty sure that’s what I’ve read will look at it again to be sure.

Okay so they discuss where similar has happened.

Pension & liabilities stay with BT post nationalisation

Value of openreach is 16.5bkn

Pension deficit is £5.5bln

BT is likely to make payment to share holders as one off dividend payment

Bkkk - oh okay sorry about that. I’ve just checked & link does direct me to pay wall but when I go through google it’s fine ? I don’t like to copy / paste text because it’s tricky from a copy right perspective

Bkkk - I’m sorry I thought everyone knew how to avoid the pay wall

Copy and paste the link - then go to google & paste it into the search section

Click search

Hopefully the correct article will be first in the results list

Click it & read

Openreach valuation & pension deficit & rules & likely options & share holder windfall

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/c8168154-e658-43ed-b67b-113f3b6a3238

ADG - would you rather have alternative facts?

Village I wish you would work out none of your little fantasies have anything to do with the EU & more to do with the will of mr Putin & his grubby propaganda site which for some reason attract you like a fly to you know what

I stopped reading at about line 3 at federalisation

Wasted vote, utter nonsense. There’s no mechanism to force U.K. to do anything or participate in anything.

It’s never looked less likely for other member states to participate

Utter complete rubbish, you’ve been totally conned & thanks for that on behalf of a country ruined by nonsense

Well Fleccy you know what happens next.

Assuming you agree what a ridiculous upheaval this is for our country, the risks involved & the massive affect on so many lives, there has to be hundreds if not thousands of examples where the U.K. is not an equal partner or where this pretend loss of sovereignty has led to this country having things done to it.

Do assuming there’s hundreds of these occurrences what’s your top 10?

Obviously if there aren’t hundreds of examples over 40 odd years, it does kind of high light the stupidity of it right ?

Generally a change like this would need a very large majority, when you consider you are taking things away from so many people it’s a ridiculous concept to assume just over 50% means that okay.

For all the reasons already discussed that result is so unsafe it’s ridiculous

What is wrong with so many people voting for something which was not described to them ?

There are at least 3 different leaves, do what percentage of those votes do you apply to anyone of those leave versions ?

The reason theres at least 3 versions of Brexit is because of the leave campaigns, vote leave, leave Eu & beleave

It was a nonsense, leave wasn’t a political campaign it was an attempt to deliberately mislead

& finally the ensuing mess is a pantomime if it’s own making the charlatan Farage, BoJo and others can’t even agree what leave meant

&!the same poison continues to blight our politics with voters still not able to punish bad behaviour, which if nothing else is their responsibility in this political equation

Fleccy - so we’ve already established (if immigration is your thing) that freedom of movement is only a 3 month unconditional visa, which runs out after 3 months at which time a member state can apply conditions, which if not met result in deportation.

We have borders where entry is controlled (otherwise why do we have people stuck in Calais ) we are outside schengen so same birders track Eu citizens entry / exit

Non EU immigration on the other hand? Which is significantly greater than EU immigration

The answer to why this boiled down to a leave vote for all the wrong reasons is misinformation of one kind or another

You do realise that “Breaking Point “ poster would have made Goebbels proud & still people wasted their hard won votes whilst screaming that’s what our boys died for (Zoe something similar)