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Bertram - blocking people or views you don’t like on a “Public” board, in my opinion speaks volumes about the blocker.
I have a despicable stalker called NDN on this board who thinks he is entitled to invade my personal information & then try to intimidate me with it to stop be expressing opinions, I haven’t even blocked him because I stick to the values I would preach.
Its the weekend, do you or anyone else have news or updates ?
I think you opened the subject of Brexit, I can only assume you want to see Brexit supporting posts in the future? & I’m really not sure how any of that makes me a dictator?.
You might not agree. You might not like truth (80 majority, 3 leave campaigns selling different versions) but at least they are verifiably true, as opposed to the nonsense just posted by others, which is verifiably untrue.
Block unblock do as you please, I care very little either way. But if you think a Brexit disaster doesn’t impact your investments, you might choose to find actual reality to prove it doesn’t / hasn’t, this would include how investors see the uk, its standing & influence. the resulting political madness & corruption, along with any verifiable advantages Uk business & citizens now have, because of brexit?
Cookoo you are are. 4th largest because of “services”. The one part of our economy relatively untouched by Brexit loons.
So thanks very much for confirming my point. I can tell you read the daily express & can see you have issues. So in the interest of fairness, I’d also like to help you out. Services are uniquely difficult to measure, it could be counting inter-actions as meaningless as a single visit to a single website.
So makes a perfect option to fool un-thinking people desperate for a brexit win.
I think I’ve already explained why it was an abomination of democracy ‘ I’ve already explained Brexit loons have had an 80 seat majority (which makes claims of remainders getting in the way pretty dumb). So why don’t you think about those, get someone to help you with the counting big to understand an 80 seat majority is more.
The thing I haven’t told you yet is, we still haven’t seen all the border checks and other little costly things that come with a Brexit. Those same Brexit loons are still begging the EU for more time, trying to avoid the impacts of their lies
i really do struggle to understand how delusional and dishonest leave voters are.
fleccy is still under the impression it’s not his fault when he voted for russian propaganda, lies, misinformation and chaos. instead it’s 2/3 of the political class….
i’m not sure how dim he is, i’ve already explained to him johnson had an 80+ majority of brexit loons in his government
brexit is a failure, everyone is worse off, the uk will continue to decline in almost every way because if it. it was a con, any decent citizen would have withdrawn their support soon as it became obvious what it really was. itv was a democratic, decisive abomination of our system of government, attack on our freedoms, a way to weaken the eu for putin. if new paper headlines like “enemies of the people “. directed at judges didn’t awake you there’s really no hope. i’m pretty sure your children and grand children will continue to pay the price, as are you now with uk share investments.
£100 invested in markets i 2016 = £117 return, the us £268 & france / germany £180-£190
voting leave made the uk a basket case. we have all the corruption all the dishonesty and incompetence which led the leave campaign in power. it’s not going well. they want you to believe it’s people on little boats, rather than their choices and incompetence. i know why i the nhs is failing, it’s the same reason transport, economics, trade, fishing, farming etc etc are also in a state. it’s because brexit was lunacy a campaign of three campaigns all selling a different version because there never was a single deliverable version. vote leave, beleave and leave.eu for the real ******s to get involved. & the you guys are still calling it a democratic vote……. u believable. mind you, it proves how badly it’s going, otherwise you would be asking me to be thankful for the sunny uplands
Bertram, I’m not surprised you still hold on to this nonsense to help with the shame of Brexit.
I’ve already explained why 3 separate campaigns each offering different brexits is an abomination of democracy.
I still see good old Russian tropes about “establishment “ & “elites”. When did you see these terms used in British discourse, before being fed by Russian propaganda?
Johnson purged the Conservative Party of almost every competent operator and recruited Brexit loons. Pretend Russian propaganda about establishments didn’t slow down Brexit delivery, Johnson has a more than 80 MP (all Brexit loons) majority.
You might want to take look at how uk fishing is going outside the EU. In fact could ask same question about almost any industry, could consider stock exchange. Obviously the facts are uk owned fishing companies SOLD their fishing rights to make a quick buck.
As for COVID - happy to address why Brexit loons corrupted the system for multi million pound contracts for PPE rather than actually acquiring PPR. £30+billion on track and trace that failed I can go on on on regarding Brexit corruption and incompetence.
By almost any measure UK will continue to fall behind all the other nations who also had Covid……..
So turns out it wasn’t democratic, turns out there is no such thing as an establishment or elite trying to stop a pretend Brexit, sponsored by Russian propaganda. Neither is there a comparison with other countries to hide behind
Bertram.
Please look up advisory referendum & that Uk doesn’t allow for binding referendums. Many voted on that basis to protest.
Please also look up vote leave. Leave.eu & Bleave campaigns campaigning for three different forms of Brexit collecting all these votes into a binary choice. Would love to hear how you think that’s democratic
Then of course Russian money, interference, illegal money and use of campaign funds & Cambridge Analytica
Id like to point out it’s you who stated your ridiculous notion of misrepresented democracy. A ridiculous notion of winner take all, otherwise known as a majority tyranny.
Democracy relies on a degree of decency & honesty. The leave campaign destroyed all resemblance & pretence of these things in the UK. A disgusting, ridiculously pathetic, dishonest, grotesque abomination of a democratic process.
Hi expat, I think you might not be looking at the full “round” of Brexit.
Apart from Brexit making Uk weaker, harder to trade with & looking like a basket case to investors, who let face it, have other options to choose from, Brexit being a reason not to invest here in the sunny uplands.
The bit I think you miss, is, you can follow Brexit back to the political madness that has poisoned.the uk. These lunatics wouldn’t have gained power or positions of power without the disruption of Brexit
It’s not difficult to join the dots. Leave voters have got the politicians & chaos they deserve.
Expat - I’m afraid we know why UK market is suppressed / valued low.
From memory - if you invested £100 in US stock exchange in 2016 you should expect to see £260 back. France and Germany £180 £190.
UK expect £116.
The key here is 2016. I don’t think there is an example where uk stocks have so under performed……
Could this be right?
Assume BT costs will increase here?
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-13264829/amp/BT-pauses-digital-phone-line-rollout-including-thousands-vulnerable-households.html
Abject - even a professional doesn’t tell you what to do with your money. At the end of the day you have to do that, rightly so in my opinion.
Be careful out the on the wild, west web. You literally have no idea who anyone is. Except for NDN who stalks me and knows who I am and thinks he has a right to not respect my privacy. But that’s a different story I guess.
It’s really not difficult to look up unearned income on the uk government website. They even have calculators you can use or get an individual quote. The best advice is for you to look this up, or to help you look this up if needs be. Any other advice forces you to divulge far too much personal info or accept far too much influence / opinion.
It’s really none of my business or anyone else’s on this “public board”. But if you were to ask, that would be my advice :). With your best interests at heart.
Fleccy - I don’t think it counts if you say “you’re not giving financial advice” & then add lots of messages, all giving financial advice.
It’s the same with unintentional investment advice repeated infinitum.
You could have just asked everyone to look up unearned income & left it at that
Bertram - thanks for your measured kind response.
I have to reply because I think it’s disingenuous to “say you can agree to disagree”
You can’ t disagree with something we both known is true. We know about the chaos and corruption within the Tory party &’we know about the low lifes who have taken seats (30p Lee et’al). We also know about the despicable people in the reform party, racism, division, foreign money & ridiculous agendas.
Voting for these parties isn’t a blind choice or difference of opinion. You vote for these people because you want division, chaos, corruption, an end to the nhs and removal of a kinder society.
I don’t mean to be controversial, but I can’t leave this unsaid. It’s why uk is going down the tubes, where voters get away with sweetening their choices with ideas of differing opinions , alternative facts or even sunlit uplands.
Populism is as old as democracy, anyone who votes for it knows exactly what they are getting & should be honest about it. IMO.
Hey Mandy. There is another thing we disagree on, your politics are bit wayward.
As a lifelong Conservative voter (until 2016) I can readily see there is nothing conservative or decent about the Conservative Party or ukip/reform/Britain first/BMP Party.
Wake up Mandy, decent types like you shouldn’t be voting for despicable people in these pretend political regimes. Your personal wealth & wellbeing won’t benefit from your dark side being tickled by bad people.
larry love your (telling) voting logic. your interest in other peoples personal business and or life choices and or pro noun choices (a la pretend culture war)
seems to superceed the reality of untold corruption and incompetence in the conservative party or an inevitable repeat of the same by opportunist, ******, leave loving, russian sponsored, divisive lunatics to be found in reform.
i find it perplexing why someone born male who identifies as a woman & who someone with empathy (in this case starmer) struggles to find the kindest description to use would be such a deal breaker
i do wonder where madness lays?. fifty years ago politicians with empathy would have struggled to find the kindest words to use publicly for *** men. it’s no different.
please try to think yourself out of right wing bigoted propaganda. if you can.
Bertram I don’t think that’s fair. I mainly see spiteful attacks on Mandy, whereas I see humour in majority of his posts.
Mandy is making a good point in so many ways, when he has repeated his conviction as many times as Fleccy has repeated his on this board, then I may change my mind.
Low share price, little interest from the business community, competition really trying to get their act together, reducing revenue (apart from pay rises)
Whose posts reflect current reality ? I think Mandy’s do, when you take out some of his flair for a tale or two.
Do you see BT striving to increase revenue other than full fibre? Which Mandy correctly points out is fraught with unknowns.
There is completion, foreign money, technology changes (over a 30 - 50 year oau back). Only yesterday I was talking about dogs needed to get it fitted, this alone makes me wonder if I can with alternative options?
Full fibre is a plan, I can see the potential cost savings, but the long payback period & the potential market changes during that time period, do present risks.
It’s nowhere near the milk and honey in the future, safe bet some would have you believe
& share price reflects this……. Which Mandy eloquently points out. (In between the poetry)
expat - i don’t think that’s right. the energy price guarantee was the response to higher fuel prices resulting from war in ukraine. the energy price cap was around before this happened as a regulated price. the argument about it being too little / too much is a separate discussion. it is however an example of regulated price and not free market, *** abandon capitalism
Well done Fleccy - hopefully someone who knows about things will be able to tell
Me.
I’ve already asked engineers in the street, they said they don’t blow fibre anymore & it’s digs or poles now (might be wrong, that’s why I’m asking)
So thanks very much, I’ll just chalk this down to Something else you don’t really understand but push yourself forward for. You have 11645 other posts just like it.