From all the info in last weeks updates, the most impressive is the 900k + premises past by openreach ready for full fibre.
Many/lil Rod and me have long thought BT might not achieve their stated goal of 25 million premises past by end of 2026, but at that rate (if it can be maintained) will prove us wrong.
Would love to know how that is done, what the definition of “homes past” actually is?
Looking at competitors figures In see liberty Media has a network build operation separate to Virgin media now, which passed 251,000 premises last quarter. But they start from a much larger Gbt foot print circa 17 million premises.
I get less excited by the old broadband losses which is also difficult to understand why the business plays this down and revenue increase fuelled by price rises.
Oh don’t do that Mandy, that kind of behaviour will only poison your existence.
It’s a bit creepy reviewing the contents of previous messages & pulling them out to threaten or intimidate other posters.
This kind of self entitlement is something I would expect from NDNIC not you. Can lead to all kinds of very unpleasant behaviour, it’s a gateway crime which usually leads to far more unpleasant obsessions (I think you know what I mean)
Did I tell you NDN stalked me & tried to intimidate me with my personal info? Can you imagine anything lower than that?
so don’t be like him.
& Pete Fkeccy doesn’t understand a the technology. His latest answer and citing VPN’s and encryption etc etc are utterly meaningless when I’m talking about applications (legitimately or not ) sharing personal /technical data between two applications.
With all his little protections and privacy tools his bank still recognises his device, if. His wife streamed TV the service would still list every device and its usage etc etc etc
& of course web browsers harvest personal data, the digital foot print created through browsers is unbelievable and sadly legitimate.
Go search for a new fridge & watch the direct marketing appear on your Facebook (or other) apps!!!!!
& yet the share price reflects the sentiment for. Sure thing, no way of loosing huge certainty of a massive payout in 2025 …..
Blue Pete - I understand the logic too
However this logic only works if BT’s competitors and partners are happy to maintain the status quo.
EE is prime example, it is no longer largest network, has lost nearly all its resale partners, even though it is the best network by most measures.
In my opinion it’s very unlikely competitors and partners will be doing the same thing 10 years from now. Openreach business looks very different if “partners” like sky start doing something different.
Fleccy won’t even consider. Such a risk, writes it off, misses how vulnerable the Bat investment is. So it’s not analysis it’s make believe.
Openreach is some ways is a remarkable business investing huge amounts of cash on behalf of BT’s competitors, which it will later rely on them “playing ball” for their business case to come to fruition.
Greenacres - you have it all wrong.
If you want to talk about wrong-uns let’s talk about Fleccy’s followers. Low life NDN stalked me online and tried to intimidate me with my own personal info. I’m sure we can agree it doesn’t go much lower?
On this board should you dare to not follow the Fleccy mantra, Fleccy and his gang will jump all over you, I would invite you to try and discuss challenges in this board. Within seconds you will be confronted with the same, repeating, monotone message, or accused of being a virgin media plant (a’la CWU) hence Mandy making a point.
Mandy is a wrong-un in many ways, but really he is laughing behind his key board, all he is doing is presenting the fleccy gang with a repeating but opposite message, a mirror of their behaviour.
Well, Fleccy, now you are being down right dishonest in a leave voter kind of a way,
Originally you mocked my lack of technical expertise, after I explained your use of a vpn &or encryption didn’t give you anonymity.
I explained layer 5 would share personal data regardless up to and including MAC address.
You then chose to declare my lack of technical expertise because MAC addresses couldn’t leave layer 2
I then fed you simpler and simpler explanations but you technical knowledge restricted your understanding to MAC addresses can’t leave layer 2 networks…
& still your telling me I don’t have any technical expertise……. Which of course I don’t but should be obvious by now, neither do you, despite your attempts to convince everyone on this board.
Its honestly tragic
Fleccy - I’m not going round in circles, I explained multiple times (layer 5) would share personal data, irrespective of encryption etc etc. I laid it out in plain language, in 101 basic network terms, but your rudimentary understanding, blind faith in your pseudo expertise meant you would continue to draw the wrong conclusion.
I brought this up several times, gave you time to research it, but your unending over confidence in yourself would put you on the wrong side of this pretty basic technical discussion. As a test you failed miserably
Go check previous discussions, it’s all there, I know it is because you claimed expertise and I wanted to know what kind of expertise I was dealing with.
As for previous discussions I understand US law enforcement would (for example) post a link that a stalker would feel obliged to click on, they would harvest the MAC and Apple or other companies for example would be able to give them the credit card details from the purchase. Equipment make, model, version etc automatically come with the MAC address, as I’ve already explained.
BTW layer 5 is the application.
Yeah fkeccy. About that technical knowledge, which one of us argued MAC address can’t leave later 2 networks?
& I tried to explain layer 5 applications can harvest them to use as a unique identifier?
This example is a security flaw, but right up until recently harvesting MAC addresses would have been common practice. Its one way for banks or tv streaming channels to identify your devices
Of course your profound technical knowledge denies this is even possible
https://thetechportal.com/2020/08/12/tiktok-used-a-known-security-loop-to-track-mac-addresses-of-androids-wsj-report/
Fleccy, I’ve said this before. You work very hard to convince people of your expertise, which I’m less than convinced about.
You are using your job experience to convince people you know about the telecoms industry & that you should be listened too.
The jobs you have done are pretty low level technician functions, no telecoms company is run or is valued from a NOC or a maintenance site.
I say this with much love, but I would suggest your job description gives you the worst possible perspective.
In terms of running & valuing a company, no one cares what colour light is flashing or which screw needs to be tightened. It just doesn’t. You might not like it, I don’t like it, but the perspective you need is far more MBA than city and guilds. I’m sorry, it just is & you are so dangerous to people who may get sucked in by you
You really need to add some balance & nothing in you CV suggests you have any real world business experience. I cringe every time some asks you for your expert opinion. It’s very dangerous & you have no right to keep offering it from an expert perspective.
I can think of at least one :)
The industry source adds: “It is a little bit of a dilemma in a sense that she’s been billed as continuity but shareholders can’t be happy. It is unimaginable they’re sitting there thinking everything’s great.”
Further undiscerning analysis from Fleccy
£1.3bln fine is a walk in the park for BT. No problem at all, I assume he would welcome it, a chance to top up & something, something dividends I suspect
I doubt there is a company any where in the world who could manage a fine like that without negatively impacting their business, let alone one with a struggling reputation and £20Bln in dept.
Political analysis equally questionable, having set fire to common decency, political accountability & reputation with a leave vote, his solution would be to invite the real loons to have a go, the reform party….. based on things like woke culture wars, which of course are aimed at a certain kind of …. citizen. The fake patriot type , inclined to protect Churchills statue whilst waving swastikas, that kind. Or ones who think small numbers of people on boats are responsible for national shortages in health care and education. Rather than a government under funding everything, or that a government should break international laws to fix an immigration problem they created & never existed before they under funded everything.
Good grief. .
Yes Pete. Leave voters and now reform.
It’s tragic, our own, equivalent to Americas maga morons. You just need to look at the people behind these parties, ridiculous to think any of them are capable.
Honestly, I’ve already said, this alone should make anyone reconsider peoples’ judgement on this board.
Honestly I stop taking any leave voter seriously.
Hi IP, government allows first £30,000 of a redundancy payment to be tax free.
After that some companies will spread further payments across the following tax year, so for instance if there are no earnings another £12,500 could be tax free.
Other options if companies are willing is to use pension tax free allowance. This is usually £40,000. This can be back dated over three years, so if you have only unused £30,000 of that allowance over last 3 years, a company could put up to £30,000 of pension payment into pension pot as a tax free lump sum. I believe this is what Joe has done with £18000 of his redundancy (30,000 tax free refundancy, 18,000 tax free lump sum in pension pot)
Hi Jo e- I don’t know what financial advice you have had - I’m not a financial advisor.
I don’t know how far you have gone BUT
my understanding is if you take tax free allowance from one pension, all your other pensions you have need to be valued at same time and the 25% tax free allowance is fixed at that value. My understanding is at this point your tax free pension allowance is limited to £4000 pa rather than £40,000.
If you have new funds and still working you might want to get advice. I’m not 100% but I’m pretty sure this would be the case. Impact might be your tax free lump sum from other pension pots will be / should be limited based on date of first withdrawal & your allowance is now on £4,000. Last thing you want is tax man to back date these numbers after you have retired, if you continue to claim £40 000 allowance from your new schemes
Obv do your own research but that’s tlwaht I think, not that any of this is my business !!!
£48 total - 30,000 tax free &. 18000 in to a pension pot using standard pension tax free allowance (40,00 pa) can be back dated .
Nice if you can get it !!!!
It is difficult to understand how BT can loses circa 55,000 people with these terms over next decade?
The lunacy of Brexit will continue to have a negative impact.
First instance, the same lunacy provides us with people in power who shouldn’t be.
Second instance, reduction in prosperity will impact all kinds of business, drive costs up, reduce work forces & make UK less likely to see investment, impact consumer spend.
UK is close to becoming a country on the “attacks” him rights, rather than “protects”. This is not good for business outside NK, Russia or China.