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THIS IS MY LARGEST HOLDING BY FAR.
Not selling any but........... equally without a diagram with measurements its is investing blind folded roulette
I have absolutely no idea what Colin is referring too so I expect very little share price movement until we do.
My opinion only ... I am prepared to throw another 6 figure investment at this , but not from that RNS.
Not even with good assays until a diagram is released.
Bit frustrated really
It has to be deliberate to stop people trying to model it and calculate the size until there are enough holes/assays to do it properly.
My advice... try and enjoy the tease as this beauty slowly reveals herself! ;)
The problem is Steve..... We have a deep wide resource which will have differing amounts of gold and copper at
depth... We have a diagram with the original presentation. So we know this.
We know we have resources at 45m .
To make this work it needs to be 3 times the size of what we have .
The market Cap has increased 4 fold in anticipation.. If it not ... is Bush Ranger financially viable to mine.... ??
Alkane next door are on a 20, 000 m drill program following their initial discovery.
We need to know the copper and gold concentrations throughout the drill plunges and trajectories before we see
a substantial re rate from here.
With the best will in the world without Bushranger fully producing African assets we are 3 to 4p a share max
Some news on Guy Fawkes where some ore already going to the plant, thw other Manica peojects, and Eureka, where drilling depths are near surface should on their own merit give the SP a leg up, the ability to drill bushranger without further dilution will be extremely beneficial in terms of derisking the program and progress from here. Though I feel that last raise fast track some, and buy the time needed, but to see some hard figures will be better still.
I bought in on firm conviction for for African assets being a spur to mid cap, so Bushranger is a very sweet cherry on the top.
GLA
Although nice and I would certainly like to know them, the positions of the drills don't prevent some understanding of what we have...the last RNS was informative...its half a km to the intrusion it's testing, (at least), the last drill intrusion was 570m, if we planning to hit it 120m further then we intersect at 690m..this coincidentally is where higher mineralization was found from drill 1.
The intrusion was 30m ...yet we hitting porphyry alteration over half a km away!!
Can a smallish intrusion really cause veins and mineralization to travel over such a distance? It would seem unbelievable particularly without large veins to help the traveling.
My guess is that this is a pressure release tunnel from the arc.
If you can, think back to diagrams of volcanos you have the main chamber, then to the sides, you have pressure release pipes leading to the surface.hence the quick cooling minerals they have found.
The question is how many release pipes are there?
And those pressure release pipes can be the size of a cathedral if you've ever been
to the Undarra Lava tubes you'll know how large and long they can be.
Bitcoinbuyer: "With the best will in the world without Bushranger fully producing African assets we are 3 to 4p a share max"
You clearly have a very poor grasp of our other assets if you genuinely believe that statement.
This thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger and there is no doubt in my mind that we have more than enough volume. Which means there is one final hurdle to get over before we have a clear run to the winning line... confirmation of sufficient concentration levels of copper and gold to make the beast viable to mine. Once we are over that, it is just a matter of how big the win is going to be.
Assay results please!
yep, bitcoinbuyer is almost a subtle deramper
"BIGGEST HOLDING" but why?? given his/her (or non-binary whatever lol) scepticism?
All the recent rns; the proximity/geology look more than promising for a massive hit here...but there are always risks...that's the joy of this game/gain
Personally I tend to agree with bitcoin about 3p to 4p for the other stuff. Was just thinking this morning could this share ever be worth 6p without bushranger? Highly unlikely.
The other projects have been known about for a long long time with endless delays and virtually zero income (tho eureka appears to have progressed quite well).
Some interesting plans and forecasts for Africa , but more than £40m cap? No chance -the (admittedly inefficient) market valued all that at around 1p ast year let’s not forget that.
This is nearly all about bushranger now. (Above maybe 4p max). The benefit to the African projects is that the recent cash raise will enable quicker scaling of them.
JDAU, I have clear opinion on that as been invested since 1.35p last year .
Bushranger is the lions share of the value here by a country mile .
If the value is proven up to be around the AA buy out resource... Ker ...ching !
Assays results wil be pivotal in time.
AA do want top quality assays to start with I presume
As time goes by, without any particularly good news or other sorts of hype, more and more shares will end up in the hands of those that have a greater understanding of the company and the potential for all of its assets. This may be a reason that we seem to be consolidating between 6p and 7p at the moment.
Traders and short term punsters are important in creating liquidity and therefore positive movement in price, but they tend to disappear during the quieter times and the SP can settle into a more stable trading range - albeit only until the nexy sensational news arrives.
-A pattern we will have to get used to at XTR over the next few months, I think...
Jolly , No disrespect . If you are wanting to ride this long term without the unnecessary spikes we need to do away with the rose tinted glasses.
It is ok coming in for 50% - 100% trading profit but the multiples will come if the facts stack up.
Bitcoinbuyer, I'm confused as to how this is your 'biggest holding' yet you don't seem to understand any of our projects or their value. At it's maximum you're suggesting 3pps (an mcap of circa £22m) to 4pps (an mcap of circa £29.5m).
To give a brief overview:
Manica Fairbride hard rock: “Xtract will receive between 20% and 23% (dependent on prevailing gold price) of the hard rock after tax operating cash flow”
N.b. production will be circa 30k oz pa
Also has a buy out clause: “· An amount equal to 80% of the net present value using a discount rate of 15%; or
· US$20 million”
Ref: https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/XTR/manica-hard-rock-collaboration-agreement-ghoo8qdt7s68ji6.html
On top of that we have:
- Manica auxiliary hard rock production(Guy Fawkes/Boa/Dots luck et al) being shared 50%-50%:
“Excellent gold intercepts at Dot’s Luck include:
- 11m at 6.53g/T Au including 6m at 10.41g/T (DLD18)
-13m at 3.88g/T Au including 2m at 14.26g/T (DLD19)
Excellent gold intercepts at Guy Fawkes include:
-2m at 11.15g/T Au including 1m at 21.96g/T (GFR03)
-3m at 2.35g/T (GFR04)”
Reference: https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20131127/pdf/42l5b7g6bfykxh.pdf
- Manica Alluvials (multiple contractors)
- Zambian copper assets (exploration and production)
Ref: https://xtractresources.com/projects-operations/
How you suggest this company without our Australian asset(s) is worth only £20-£30m is beyond me.
Maybe you'd care to share your workings/valuations for the various projects so we can all see you justify your statement?
CE I agree, but -and I hate using TA- this is clearly in a rising channel. We were 5-6p now 6-7p, in a couple of weeks time probably 7-8p and by the end of the month the channel is 8-9p, this is obviously with all the major drawbacks of TA around news etc. And tbh I am not sure it's worth too much, but it does show a generally rising share. As you say, liquidity is falling, we were dominated by large sells and medium buys, it's rather reversed now. It should reinforce any rising.
Ps. I agree with you re Bushranger being the "lion's share" as you put it, but In my view you're effectively ignoring everything this company has been pushing for over the last several years prior to the Australian acquisition in the middle of last year.
This company is not a one trick pony as is the view you seem to be trying to push.
You're suggesting a maximum valuation of £30m for everything else XTR has on the table - so show me your workings.
JDAU... I obviously value XTR in a different way to you .. Which is fine. No right and wrong answer.
My largest holding.. By that I mean I have just over 7m shares .. Most at 1.55 and 1.85p priory to the first drill
Before and just after Xmas.
XTR had failed to meet deadlines for other projects .. Sole purpose of my investment was to get exposure in the form of UK listed Lachlan Belt exploration.
The African projects need to prove their worth.. ATM here say only .. Proof is money incoming ... landed in the ac.
We all need to step back from the initial hype and be honest with ourselves. I am not selling or buying..
Sat waiting for assays ... not best interceptions along the entire plunge and a drill trajectory diagram.
If good will invest further.
If I do not see it I will sell ....
Simple for me... If the Bushranger is economical to mine...its a buy
If its not its a sell
If unsure it is a hold.
If I'm unsure about an investment I wouldn't be holding at all. Especially £100k's + worth! You can't just unload 7m shares at a stroke in this kind of stock. I concur with jolly I thought it strange that in one sentence you say its your biggest holding and in the next say you are not sure about it. Doesn't quite add up, at the very least I would be derisking. But hey each to their own.
"I obviously value XTR in a different way to you .. Which is fine. No right and wrong answer."
I do not agree with this statement, there absolutely is a right and a wrong way to value a company, it's business!
For your to say there is a maximum value of £30m for all of the other assets XTR have progressed is the 'wrong way'.
You assign little to no value to the mcap for income from multiple projects (current + imminent + future) and seemingly little to no value for our other potentially large copper assets in a rising metals market.
Do what you will re buying and selling based on the Australian asset only, that's your prerogative as an investor, but don't post a suggested price cap for projects you clearly do not understand and cannot justify.
I'm still waiting on your valuation for the other projects to justify a sub £30m mcap.
Since you 'value it in a different way to me' and if you're to be believed (which is questionable) 'have just over 7m shares' (£450k+) in here surely you have some workings on project metrics/valuations?
Dibs ... JDAU.. your opinions of my investment strategy mean nothing to me.
Neither does your deemed valuation ... Just one driver for me ... SHARE PRICE
I feel comfortable with my investment strategy... it works . Gut feeling , perception and research
Have a look back through my XTR post history since November last year.
I rest my case.
Market clearly likes the news
My frustration is that you seem to be happy to play the armchair expert giving a company valuation, lowballing all of the other projects but you're not happy providing any sound reasoning or calculations to back up your statements when challenged?
"Neither does your deemed valuation ... Just one driver for me ... SHARE PRICE"
- Share price is dictated by market cap which in turn is dictated by the valuation of the ALL of the projects within a company combined, hence my issue with you talking down the other prospects that make this company exciting.
As I said before, do what you will, it's your prerogative - it's 'your money invested'.
I'd appreciate it, however, if you don't rubbish our other prospects without knowing what you're talking about.
Calm down bitcoin. You were challenged, that can happen if you make big claims. Which you have. FWIW my strategy works too. Very well. 3,000% PF return in past year. Capital Preservation very important - if I'm not sure I exit a stock and that has worked extremely well for me. I also leave feelings out of it too.
A must listen for anybody that is already invested here, or who is thinking about taking the plunge, is the Saturday 6th Feb interview, given by CB which covers the state of play on all fronts to give a very comprehensive picture of what XTR is all about:
https://www.share-talk.com/xtract-resources-plc-update-with-colin-bird-executive-chairman-xtr-l-interview/#gs.uygf30