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With a black run at Val di Sere maybe - not the FTSE.
I've bought some and am expecting to buy two or three more tranches, it's only going down for a while yet.
most on here are absolutely clueless about this share and where the markets in general are heading, read some of the comments - it's embarrassing
Jax "Baked in - you ain’t seen nothing yet - to the beat from that well known song".....I Prefer "The only way is up"....Great tune that one.....
Jax all you have posted is the old blah blah bla. You have not substantiated your claim. Don't bother posting the same again. It's meaningless.
Mrlong, I can only tell you what a disappointing share this has been previously, trying to predict what will happen here next is a lot more difficult, but i keep my fingers crossed that we will at least see this back a pound in the not to distant future
unlike some of my other shares that have gone up and down within a range Vodafone has only gone one direction which means you get caught in a trap with two options sell off at a loss or hang on and hope it will recover, so as much as i want you guys to be right, i need to actually see it happen if that makes any sense, so i will just keep an open mind about it for now
we all know mobile phones and 5g etc. is the technology of the future, but will it be rewarding for it's share holders
let's hope something good can finally happen for this share
best of luck
Rob most of my holding here is our isas so it money I’ve moved across and don’t need. I’ll wait as long as required is
The truth, there’s no pressure. I believe this share is over sold and under valued even based on all the info we’re all aware of.
It will only drop to a certain level before someone makes an offer and then it would jump up anyway. The Middle East interest looks good to me and as a cash generator, it’s pretty good.
The market is in the process of revaluing Vod - easy to understand
Up or down tomorrow take your bets
Baked in - you ain’t seen nothing yet - to the beat from that well known song
Sorry Jax, none of what you have said show me that these perceived facts are not already backed into the sp.
You mentioned specifically that 19.5 billion is overvalued.
How was this calculated please.
If you can't answer that, then you cannot claim that 19.5 billion, your figure not mine, is overvalued.
Rob, I liked your joke, not a lot, but I liked it. Seriously though I did like it, & had a good laugh, out load even!? So perhaps you have a sense of humour after all? Keep it comeing Amigo. Laughing beats moaning any day. What was it that the great Urdu poet said, or was it Enrie Wise with the poem what we he wrote?
Dan, i take it you didn't like my joke? never mind
Correction I meant Urdu,not Urdo.
Well rob, I can't expect you boyo's from the valleys to understand what (sic) means, but I am feeling a bit better,(can't think why?) but thanks for your concern. Have a good week boyo, sorry, I mean Amigo.
Mrlong, It will depend how long you can wait. And how old you are if you're 18 you may have a bit of a chance, I've waited 6 years and it's just kept going down , seriously though i really hope this has turned a corner but i wouldn't like to bet my life savings on it, right now i will be happy to see it get back to a £1 so i can recover the losses from my last top up here, the remainder i will just leave in here and just keep taking the dividends
If they are selling off parts of the company to reduce debt that will possibly mean less profits for Vodafone in the future
I will ask you guys you're opinions on that
share prises dropping the last week seems to be the general trend with most shares though , so don't think we should be too hard on vod at the moment
A fascinating analysis about Deuteschland and unfortunately, I concur with some of the criticism. Last week, and I am Germany based, I went to an estate agent about a property. Within 1 minute the receptionist was screaming at me as the house I was talking about hadn't been placed on the system. And. It was an American owned estate agent! And this article talks about a hostile environment for foreigners.
Dan, hope your feeling better mate, gutter mentioned you wasn't feeling very well :-)
Come on Avo take the blinkers off
Declining….
customer numbers
Revenue
Fcf
Divided (imo)
Increasing…..
Servicing debt
Competition
Unlikely……
Merger will happen
Germany will improve
No recession in key economies
On the plus side:
E& is still keen
We have MDV the saviour (joke)
The brand counts for nothing imo - Vod can easily go bust like any other poorly run business
Now you show me substance behind your counter argument other than looking at yesterdays sp and saying that’s where it should be me old mucker
On what basis is it overvalued jax? Can you put any substance behind this baseless assertion?
£19.5bn is way overpriced for this pos
Come on 6s
I once invested in something that quickly lost 65%.
I waited and waited and waited, when I sold it returned me 20 fold on my stake.
Gutter snipe, look up the meaning of (sic), that way you might understand?
Crikey if the German economy is 19th century whats the UK economy then - neolithic and run by crusty old geezers in tobacco stained gentlemen's clubs?!
Vod will sour - not soar
This is sore - cut the Vod sp with a saw
I smell desperation in your VOD will soar comment Avo
Sorry you’re down here
FTSE might be a bit of a drag on the sp again today. Happy top up time. As someone else has mentioned the mispricing of assets will eventually correct itself and VOD will soar.
Good grief jax you sound like a doom monger with the sky going to fall in and the worlds going to end .Are you one of these people that's going to run round shouting don't panic don't panic we are all going to lose our jobs the ice caps are melting and we are all going to be flooded.
I can assure you life will go on markets go up and down and some will carry on making money and that's what it is, and how it works. Why don't you find something else to worry about and move on so others can have a little fun.
"Not just on Vod’s colossal debt pile but on ordinary folk being squeezed so not upgrading to the latest iPhone. Look at Apple"
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Per this logic, they keep their and pass on phone upgrade. Again, everything is relative. Vods debt is within the norm and easily manageable. Its part of their business model.
"Vod is a dinosaur which sits nicely into Germany’s crumbling 19th century economy."
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Ah you mean germany is crumbling but US isn't?
"You wouldn’t want all your eggs in that basket. "
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Vod itself has a hedged business model