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Short Term Investor, LTI
Your lack of market knowledge and investment practices is running through your laughable responses. YOU HANG YOURSELF WITH EVERY RESPONSE
I see the real investors laughing at your posts EVEN LSE ADMIN MUST BE GIGGLEING AWAY.
YOU ARE NOW STARTING TO BELIEVE YOUR OWN CRAP LOL LOL LOL
IMHO
Happy FRIDAYS ALL
Livestock
“I'm sure Charlie Nunn will abuse his position as the CEO and strongly recommend another buyback program to boost short term EPS and hitting bonus targets for the banking executives, the share price has had a nice rally over the last few days with shareholders reinvesting there dividend payments, if the bank scrap the buybacks and up the dividend just imagine all the new investors buying in and reinvesting the divi money share price would shoot up”
Astonishingly naive.
Fleccy,
A share consolidation would make zero difference. A 1 for 3 split would just mean the share price is 3 times higher for 1/3 of the number of shares.
Brix
''100% cash is my intention''
enjoy
Flec
''Well what they're doing isn't helping the share price is it?''
The BOD do not determine the valuation that the market puts on Lloyds
''in the meantime they're Block listing over 1.3 Billion shares a year for the deferred bonus scheme and share incentive plan''
I am not aware that 1.3 Billion shares are being created each year as part of employee remuneration on top of any that staff may purchase via SAYE schemes . That would come to a huge amount each year - you may need a re think..
''pre covid investors are receiving a debased dividend for no other reason than that's what the board decided to do.''
I think you will find that it is the BOD who decide the running of the bank. They propose a final dividend and buyback policy to shareholders, who overwhelmingly voted for both.
'' you have your view and others have theirs, personally I would have rather received more in dividends than Buybacks''
Shareholders overwhelming voted for their proposals.
''They didn't have to debase the dividend post covid''
They didn't have to propose any dividend payment.
"How many Billion is not relevant. They make every sense - they are to reduce share capital. The percentage reduction in shares from cancellations is what matters not the number of shares on the market."
Well what they're doing isn't helping the share price is it? And in the meantime they're Block listing over 1.3 Billion shares a year for the deferred bonus scheme and share incentive plan; And pre covid investors are receiving a debased dividend for no other reason than that's what the board decided to do. LTI you have your view and others have theirs, personally I would have rather received more in dividends than Buybacks. They didn't have to debase the dividend post covid, it was at best aloof and at worst callous.
The £7.5b government bond they opened pays customers 6.2% guaranteed upto £1m . Stop being overlord of narcissism again
Dear lti
100% cash is my intention
Gordon Brown hit the nail on the head in 2008, when he was chancellor, “No return to boom and bust.” PM Blair opened the Uk borders to mass immigration and the result is…. no more boom and bust.
Since 2008, the Uk is simply bust.
Landlords made sure of it.
Thinking it was because
Brix
''4 ish months away that is , exactly why i've gone cash and only holding 2 stock .''
I have heard it all now - gone mainly to cash because of the prospect of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. There was me thinking it was being you wanted the excitement of seeing the cash value increase by 3% after tax in a years time.
Strange that there was no mention of that on 7 Sep 2023 16:13 when you were worried about another banking crash or another Covid.
I think with your new extra worry, you may consider being 100% cash.
Divis for me until I'm out of landlord Lloyds at 48p lol
Plus the interest rate forgot that sorry
Carltt
May i suggest you've just watch Nigel ! . He expects China to invade Taiwan next year ,4 ish months away that is , exactly why i've gone cash and only holding 2 stock .
The country is massively in debt.
100% of f uck all is bankruptcy.
More and more illegal immigrants are en route to the Uk, to get their free luxury hotels paid and their free housing benefits eventually paid.
A straight question for the numpty Landlord Lloyd’s fanboys here:
If China invade Taiwan, why should you care one iota about Landlord Lloyd’s buying their own shares?
Ftse
''having excess capital is dangerous''
I would not have used the word dangerous. I believe Lloyds were aiming to get rid of excess capital by the end of next year?
Flec
''Buybacks make little sense with sixty odd Billion shares in issue''
How many Billion is not relevant. They make every sense - they are to reduce share capital. The percentage reduction in shares from cancellations is what matters not the number of shares on the market.
Flec
''If Lloyds want to reduce the shares in issue, they should do a 1 for 3 reverse split and aim for around 20 Billion shares in issue''
ffs, I cannot believe the same nonsense posted over and over again. How many more times does it needs saying - a share consolidation is cosmetic - a 1 foe 3 consolidation would create '30p' shares instead of the current '10p'.
The policy aim of the share buybacks is to reduce share capital.
A cosmetic shares consolidation does not reduce share capital.
Flec
''Many people who rely on their Lloyds dividends for income would probably take a different view''
LTI
''i would be happy''
I would be happy to see inheritance tax scrapped - I don't speak for anyone else on the matter.
Obviously next week will be v interesting ....FOMC & BofE........a lot talk that rates may stay at these levels for longer than originally anticipated......gla
Nice one Catnip ;-)
Sept 14 (Reuters) - The UK's FTSE 100 hit its highest in six weeks on Thursday after the European Central Bank signalled an end to its monetary tightening cycle, while industrial metal miners led the gains after a surge in iron ore prices.
The exporter-heavy FTSE 100 index (.FTSE) rose the most in over 10 months, soaring 2.0%. The midcap index (.FTMC) mirrored the moves and was up 1.8%.
The European Central Bank raised its key interest rate to a record high of 4% on Thursday but, with the euro zone economy in the doldrums, signalled that the hike, its 10th in a 14-month-long fight against inflation, was likely to be its last.
Sorry i know the higher rate of tax is 39.5%ax on dividends with first £1000 tax free
my particular situation is i have just gone over 100k in total income with job and dividends. it is nice issue to have.
they take away the £1 for every ,£2 of the 12,530 tax free threshold everyone gets
so the extra dividends in my case means i lose half of that 12,530 tax free threshold.
The good, the bad and the spaffly
The smart money:
14-Sep-23 16:48:41 42.55 35,551,201 Sell* 15m O
Then there is SUF sat on £100k+ losses.
FTSETiger
"i prefer if buybacks happen as overall my tax is 50% of dividend"
If you are close to retirement retire early then you wont pay 50% tax on your dividend.