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Https://www.google.com/finance/quote/LLOY:LON?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiPleiZ8uSFAxUHR0EAHfRCBwsQ3ecFegQIQxAX&comparison=LON:AAL&window=MAX
Keep it realistic and add the all time price history for both AAL and Landlord Lloyds, apologies for totally destroying your distorted bank bias and blowing you out of the water. 🍿🙂
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share' - On 8th oct 2016 i invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse100 company, so i could run a comparison - since 2016 others have been added
~~~ on 8th oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 bp. shares & 1905 lloy shares
today's value, bp. 206@525 =£1081 v lloy 1905@52.3 =£996
~~~ in April 2017 invest4life suggested i add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
today's value, glen 335@470 =£1575 v lloy 1553@52.3 =£812
~~~ in July 2017 nucky suggested i add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
today's value, nwg 384@307 =£1179 v lloy 1512@52.3 =£791
~~~ in july 2017 utrickytrees asked that i add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
today's value barc 479@204 =£977 v lloy 1504@52.3 = £787
~~~ in sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 dge & 1704 lloy
today's value, dge 37.3@2776 =£1035 v lloy 1704@52.3 =£891
~~~ in april 2020 theosus asked that i add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
today's value, niox 3891@67 =£2607 v lloy 3058@52.3 =£1599
~~~ in april 2020 theboard asked that i add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 rr. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
today's value, rr. 1073@421 =£4517 v lloy 3367@52.3 =£1761
~~~ this week's observation - Bank Q1 results uppy week, russia/ukraine/israel/hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Rayner tax affairs, UK to exit ECHR? Rwanda flights in 6-8wks? SNP mess, Starmer to adopt Rwanda plan rumoured (sorry about all the deaths during the 2yr delay?) King Charles to return to duties
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, imo those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share' - On 8th oct 2016 i invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse100 company, so i could run a comparison - since 2016 others have been added
~~~ on 8th oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 bp. shares & 1905 lloy shares
today's value, bp. 206@515 =£1061 v lloy 1905@51 =£972
~~~ in April 2017 invest4life suggested i add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
today's value, glen 335@474 =£1588 v lloy 1553@51 =£792
~~~ in July 2017 nucky suggested i add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
today's value, nwg 384@277 =£1064 v lloy 1512@51 =£771
~~~ in july 2017 utrickytrees asked that i add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
today's value barc 479@186 =£891 v lloy 1504@51 = £767
~~~ in sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 dge & 1704 lloy
today's value, dge 37.3@2837 =£1058 v lloy 1704@51 =£869
~~~ in april 2020 theosus asked that i add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
today's value, niox 3891@65 =£2529 v lloy 3058@51 =£1560
~~~ in april 2020 theboard asked that i add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 rr. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
today's value, rr. 1073@396 =£4249 v lloy 3367@51 =£1717
~~~ this week's observation - Israel/Iran conflict makes markets nervous, russia/ukraine/israel/hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Rayner tax affairs, UK to exit ECHR? Rwanda flights soon? SNP scandal, UK rejects EU free movement offer
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, imo those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share' - On 8th oct 2016 i invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse100 company, so i could run a comparison - since 2016 others have been added
~~~ on 8th oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 bp. shares & 1905 lloy shares
today's value, bp. 206@539 =£1110 v lloy 1905@51 =£972
~~~ in April 2017 invest4life suggested i add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
today's value, glen 335@486 =£1628 v lloy 1553@51 =£792
~~~ in July 2017 nucky suggested i add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
today's value, nwg 384@275 =£1056 v lloy 1512@51 =£771
~~~ in july 2017 utrickytrees asked that i add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
today's value barc 479@183 =£877 v lloy 1504@51 = £767
~~~ in sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 dge & 1704 lloy
today's value, dge 37.3@2784 =£1038 v lloy 1704@51 =£869
~~~ in april 2020 theosus asked that i add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
today's value, niox 3891@65 =£2529 v lloy 3058@51 =£1560
~~~ in april 2020 theboard asked that i add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 rr. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
today's value, rr. 1073@405 =£4346 v lloy 3367@51 =£1717
~~~ this week's observation - Ex divi dip week for bank, russia/ukraine/israel/hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, Rayner tax affairs, Sydney Stabbing, SubPostOffice scandal, UK to exit ECHR? Rwanda flights soon? Grand National
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, imo those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share' - On 8th oct 2016 i invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so i could run a comparison - since 2016 others have been added
~~~ on 8th oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 bp. shares & 1905 lloy shares
today's value, bp. 206@506 =£1042 v lloy 1905@53 =£1010
~~~ in april 2017 invest4life suggested i add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
today's value, glen 335@458 =£1534 v lloy 1553@53 =£823
~~~ in july 2017 nucky suggested i add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
today's value, nwg 384@278 =£1067 v lloy 1512@53 =£801
~~~ in july 2017 utrickytrees asked that i add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
today's value barc 479@190 =£910 v lloy 1504@53 = £797
~~~ in sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 dge & 1704 lloy
today's value, dge 37.3@2850 =£1062 v lloy 1704@53 =£903
~~~ in april 2020 theosus asked that i add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
today's value, niox 3891@64 =£2490 v lloy 3058@53 =£1621
~~~ in april 2020 theboard asked that i add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 rr. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
today's value, rr. 1073@421 =£4517 v lloy 3367@53 =£1785
~~~ this week's observation - flat week for bank, russia/ukraine/israel/hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, MP sex scandal, Gaza aide workers killed, Scotland introduces Hate Crime law, UK to exit ECHR? Rwanda flights soon?
a very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, imo those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
current value - lloy 15000 @53 = £7950 = +58% over ~48 months
~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
current value - lloy 8500 @53 = £4505 = +20% over ~24 months
~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
current value - lloy 11500 @53 = £6095 = +23% over ~21 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
current value - lloy 30,000 @53 = £15900 = +15% over ~44wks
~~~4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
current value - lloy 25,000@53 = £13250 = +24% over ~27wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
current value - lloy 28,000@53 = £14840 = +27% in ~23wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
current value - lloy 10,000@53 = £5300 = +25% in 18wk
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''wonder when the market will start to address the valuation imbalance''
for as long as possible I hope, whilst shareholders continue to vote for share repurchase programmes.
Yes Skier - very disappointing - and goes to emphasize what a bargain the Lloy SP represents - wonder when the market will start to address the valuation imbalance
So... the non-LLOY portfolio has outperformed the LLOY portfolio (excluding dividends) by 10-fold between 2016 and 2024...
* Non-LLOY = +79%
* LLOY = +8%
started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th oct 2016 i invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so i could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
~~~ on 8th oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 bp. shares & 1905 lloy shares
today's value, bp. 206@496 =£1022 v lloy 1905@52 =£991
~~~ in april 2017 invest4life suggested i add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
today's value, glen 335@435 =£1457 v lloy 1553@52 =£808
~~~ in july 2017 nucky suggested i add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 nwg & 1512 lloy
today's value, nwg 384@266 =£1021 v lloy 1512@52 =£786
~~~ in july 2017 utrickytrees asked that i add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
today's value barc 479@183 =£877 v lloy 1504@52 = £782
~~~ in sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 dge & 1704 lloy
today's value, dge 37.3@2926 =£1092 v lloy 1704@52 =£886
~~~ in april 2020 theosus asked that i add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
today's value, niox 3891@64 =£2490 v lloy 3058@52 =£1590
~~~ in april 2020 theboard asked that i add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 rr. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
today's value, rr. 1073@427 =£4582 v lloy 3367@52 =£1751
~~~ this week's observation - flat week for bank, russia/ukraine/israel/hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, us bridge collapse, ****** abbott re-admitted to the labour party, some people receive honours while others are jealous lol
a very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, imo those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
current value - lloy 15000 @52 = £7800 = +55% over ~48 months
~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
current value - lloy 8500 @52 = £4420 = +18% over ~24 months
~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
current value - lloy 11500 @52 = £5980 = +21% over ~21 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
current value - lloy 30,000 @52 = £15600 = +12% over ~43wks
~~~4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
current value - lloy 25,000@52 = £13000 = +21% over ~26wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
current value - lloy 28,000@52 = £14560 = +24% in ~22wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
current value - lloy 10,000@52 = £5200 = +23.% in 17wk
Started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various poster's perception that lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
8th Oct 2016 I invited wl/newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company, so I could run a comparison, since 2016 others have been added
~~~ On 8th Oct 2016 - - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 lloy shares
Today's value, BP. 206@499 =£1028 v lloy 1905@52 =£991
~~~ In April 2017 invest4life suggested I add glencore - - on 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 glen shares & 1553 lloy shares
Today's value, glen 335@429 =£1437 v lloy 1553@52 =£808
~~~ In July 2017 nucky suggested I add rbs/natwest - - on 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 NWG & 1512 Lloy
Today's value, NWG 384@261 =£1002 v Lloy 1512@52 =£786
~~~ In July 2017 utrickytrees asked that I add barc - - on 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 barc & 1504 lloy
Today's value barc 479@181 =£867 v lloy 1504@52 = £782
~~~ In Sept 2018 motley fool recommended diageo over lloyds - - on 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 lloy
Today's value, DGE 37.3@2901 =£1082 v lloy 1704@52 =£886
~~~ In April 2020 theosus asked that I add circassia - - on 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 cir/niox & 3058 lloy
Today's value, niox 3891@66 =£2568 v lloy 3058@52 =£1590
~~~ In April 2020 theboard asked that I add rollsroyce - - on 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. (post 10for3ri 1073) & 3367 lloy
Today's value, RR. 1073@420 =£4507 v lloy 3367@52 =£1751
~~~ This week's observation - Uppy week for bank(but new gaps), Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Hamas hostilities rattle on - cost of living continues to bite, strikes strikes strikes, same old same old lol
A very basic comparison that does not include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' should maybe consider premium bonds?
~~~ 1st real deal, 30-3-20 i bought 15,000 lloy @ 33.606 = £5040
Current value - lloy 15000 @52 = £7800 = +55% over ~48 months
~~~ 2nd real deal, 4-3-22 i bought 8,500 lloy @ 44 = £3740
Current value - lloy 8500 @52 = £4420 = +18% over ~24 months
~~~ 3rd real deal, 13-6-22 i bought 11,500 lloy @ 42.66 = £4940
Current value - lloy 11500 @52 = £5980 = +21% over ~21 months
~~~ 5th real deal, 4-5-23 i bought 30,000 lloy @ 46.24 = £13872
Current value - lloy 30,000 @52 = £15600 = +12% over ~42wks
~~~4th & 6th real deals sold at profit - details in previous posts ~~~
~~~ 7th real deal, 3-10-23 i bought 25,000 lloy@42.9 = £10725
Current value - lloy 25,000@52 = £13000 = +21% over ~25wk
~~~ 8th real deal, 20-10-23 i bought 28,000 lloy@41.8 = £11700
Current value - lloy 28,000@52 = £14560 = +24% in ~21wk
~~~ 9th real deal, 27-11-23 i bought 10,000 lloy@42.3 = £4229
Current value - lloy 10,000@52 = £5200 = +23.% in 16wk