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"Not reading the usual panic posts from the bore"

I have never panicked over this stock. (I have made good money from it though.)

Less hyperbole and more consideration of views that don't agree with might help everyone get along.

Ceesor, I agree, its still, clearly all about the money.

Do you buy now and hope the potential raise is close to this figure (or even higher) or do you wait in case it is at a discount to the present SP to make the risk of waiting worthwhile?

I just think headphones are a form or subset of "headset" and the two might be deemed to be interchangeable and as I say it was just an attempt to buy some time before the competition put 2 and 2 together, (although I imagine they figure it out all a bit quicker than we do!.. ha ha!)

Oh for goodness sake LDA get over yourself and guessing how I feel on a few lines of a post...(If you don't realise by now that I am not affected by how I am perceived on this BB you really need to get a grip).

I simply am highlighting the hypocrisy and double standards of the group-think here by ignoring the SP reaction following early but very positive signs in a potential platform that might likely be a CURE for an untreatable cancer.

Given as Hurst as always told us, companies are bought out for billions for much less.

Don't you think it odd the SP has not moved? and if you do, does that then not make you consider why that might be the case?

If this BB could be more collegiate it its exchange of opinions and views it would be the better for it.

The thing is BV you do read them, buts lets move on now you have burnished your right-on credentials....

I guarantee, when an RNS combines with a decent/big upward move, every one of you will gloat to tell me how wrong I have been forever, using the SP rise as justification.

"The share price reaction, like this thread, is irrelevant."

I disagree, most investors buy in front of big news if they are confident it is coming.

I am not expecting the SP to be 200p on todays news but if AVCT is valued at "only" £1b its close to 300p per share. so a 20-30% share rise to a high 30's to 40p is hardly that demanding in my view.

It seems I am almost alone in being disappointed with the SP reaction.

Everyone else seems to think great news followed by no SP move is exactly what they expected.

Yes, Thorn i agree, its very interesting now...

timing is everything. (Always has been and always will be).

Ice, I really don't understand you at all.

At some stage the SP has to rise doesn't it? (I have actually never disagreed with you inasmuch as, if the science does in fact work the value of AVCT will rocket and that will and can only be reflected in the share price. I can just see other scenarios whereby shareholders could lose out in away that you never entertain.)

So here we are with the first RNS on the crucial efficacy part of the trial with a very promising early update. And basically the SP does not move.

According to you, the money follows the science, the money has to be reflected in a higher SP, yes?

So given the science looks to be working you still think the SP is irrelevant. How then does a shareholder expect to make any money out of AVCT?

When does the science count? Is there never to be a correlation between the SP and the Science?

My explanation is that a raise might be coming soon. (I don't know but for me it would explain the absolutely contrarian reaction to what looks to be the the start of the vindication of years of trials and research and no movement in the SP. (Of course, who knows the market might be asleep and missed this due to other events going on the world and its a delayed reaction)

But this is the science working, so even by your logic, which when the science is proven to work is sound, why isn't the SP rising?

I just don't understand why so many here react so aggressively to any view they don't either understand or share.

Calm down ice, you say the money follows the science, well haven't AVCT just confirmed that the tech works?

So why is the money not following the science? Why is the SP not moved?

I think thats odd and therefore interesting, don't you?

Interesting because this news looks like a vindication of the efficacy and they have released it as soon as possible, and I agree with Steve that this could lead to a flurry of updates as more patients meet the very initial time frame for AVCT to report on.

So why a small rise in the SP at the bell followed already by a pullback?

I imagine a cash raise is very close and this data is being used to support it. At what level the raise will be (if indeed there is one) is hard to guess at.

The fact that the length of time they are reporting the P1a trial data, suggests to me that it won't be as good as we were led to believe and indeed reported, but by that time (which is why is it will be a year after 3 years of a protracted safety trial which has given them plenty of time to produce the report, will coincide what they hope will be great efficacy stats on patients that would actually benefit from this platform (P1b)

Gets real interesting now.

Not sure about that Donk. it says headphone platform, which may be suitably opaque to be the Samsung headset.

The fact the design win RNS was an NDA release may also be why the wording, while still being "legal", was doing its best to throw everyone off the scent?

I don't know (obviously and you could be 100% correct), but I don't think throwing in the word platform would have been a throw away remark and it may be enough to allow headset to go into that broader category.

Anyway, we will all know soon enough.

Well 895p is turning out to be quite the tease. (never mind 900p) this is the number (from a technical perspective) that has to be breached and close on or above. Ideally by a few p at least....

tomorrow.. it will be tomorrow....

Morris my health as far as I am aware is fine thank you.

You are as unable as I, to change anything regarding AVCT so why not take your own advice you doll out, (unrequested I might add), to me?

perhaps the difference is that I am emotionally unattached to this stock and really could care less. I do enjoy however reading other peoples opinions and where I can, learning from them. To date you have not been much help.

"The cool thing is plenty say they want it"

Name one.

"Inking deals" springs to mind.

Not too distant future? When next week, next year?

3 months of dosing, not even a remark of very first expectations are "promising, but very early days". (You might think that not necessary, but the whole point of P1b, given the success of P1a, should be an immediate response to very targeted patients who have been carefully vetted to show the full positive impact of this new platform.

It just seems more of the same at the moment. Vague remarks whereas if there was specifics to be highlighted, they could be.

Well, it had a longing glance at 895p.....

Maybe tomorrow it will pluck up the courage and ask it for a date.....

Thanks DG, I will continue to look at them. (right now the spare throwaway is going into CPX)

"The share price will reverse when 1) the trolls disappear as their entry price has been reached "

Its the current shareholders that are selling. Its not the "trolls" as you so simplistically and inaccurately state.

The price is going down because sellers (ie current shareholders) want to off load and there are not enough buyers at the current level, so the sellers have to lower the price until buyers do take the trade.

This is a classic example of the backward thinking here by so many. You simply have no idea how it works even on the most very basic level.

Or less risk, WOSG

CPX

Mills, Nothing has changed really. Has to close above .18p then it puts .41p as the next target in play

The RSI is allowing .18p to be broken and the recent trend is up, so there is a better than evens chance that it will at least make another attempt very soon to break this celling. (imo dyor etc)

"Look at Wyndrum's continual 'logic', the SP is down therefore the science isn't up to much etc, etc (he even claims he doesn't know much about the science) Correlation is not evidence of causation. This opinion is a well known logical fallacy, and yet he sticks to it like a religious zealot."

Except you are wrong opti. Completely wrong. Your assumption is incorrect.

You are assuming the science will win out (it might, but it might not, thats the thing with trials)

This is an INVESTMENT. The aim of the investment is to buy and then the SP to go up. There is more to it than just the science. The SP is the reflection of market sentiment. This is often derided here but the fallacy is that you and all the rest, believe in market sentiment. You have to because you are buying in now (then) while the risk is high because your guess (sentiment) is that it will outperform the current majority guesses (sentiment).

We are not dealing in facts but future outcomes with a lack of the full knowledge let alone understanding of the science. (Which none here really understand in the detail necessary to "know" what's going on.)

It is perfectly possible that the SP is in fact correct and that the current market does know more than you. You are making an assumption that you know more than the sum total of every other investor in the market, whether that's investment houses, Nomads, specialist funds, as well as big investors both public and private.

Clearly (because its the future being discussed), there are differing opinions. After 4 years the SP is at its all time low even though its just had its most recent update with carrots of deals and US listings. The "market" does not trust the BoD.

Its all about the money and until the funding issue is resolved the majority opinion is to wait and see how this pans out.

Thats simple risk management. No Trolling, no conspiracy, no agenda, just straight forward investors trying to get the best return on their money.

How has your analysis worked out over the years in this investment?