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DNP:"Buyer have to be there to buy your sell... otherwise if no one wants to buy you will have to lower your price".
Yes, exactly the seller will be forced to lower his price to attract a buyer. The buyer will have forced the SP down

If you think I've got this back to front, ask yourself, what price will you sell at? Say its 500p and the SP is only at 450p. You hang on until its 500p (you could have sold at 450p but you did not, you ultimately forced the SP up to 500p, you made some buyer pay more than the 450p that was on offer previously. You did that, you, the seller.

That's right comic, supply and demand, you are just looking at the wrong end of the telescope. Do you think buyers always want to pay over the odds for their purchase?

They can't buy unless the sellers sell and if the seller does not want to sell, then the buyer will have to up his offer, so its sellers who force the price up

DNP, yep it seems weird but this morning due to whatever reason(s) the buyers only wanted to pay 220p and the sellers were nervous that a bigger fall was possible and therefore selling at 220p was better then maybe having to sell at 210p because it looked like that was next. (Bloody buyers forcing the price down!)
So 220p might be peanuts buts it more peanuts than 210p....
What do you think?

Ok DNP fair enough so buyers want to pay higher prices to get in?
The reason that buyer will pay higher prices (which makes you think they are pushing it and not being pulled), is because of the fear of missing out further rises, So buyer wants Boo at 245p, seller wants 253p if neither move no trade takes place but one of them will eventually blink. Who needs the trade the most. Does the seller blink and think, "if other sellers fill those 245p orders I might end up selling at 243p or less! yikes I'll sell now because I'm scared I'll get less."
So, buyers force the price down, sellers force the price up. It explains a lot once you get it.
Why do you think the price spiked? all the buyers thought there was news breaking, so the sellers did not let them have the shares unless they paid 253p, the buyers only paid that because they think the SP will go higher. And it will id the sellers hold on to their stock.

DNP look at this way: People can't sell unless somebody is buying. Now, sellers want the price as high as possible and buyers want to buy in as low as possible. If there are all these buyers lined up at say, 245p but sellers wont sell unless its 253p then buyers have a choice. Don't buy and hope no one else does and wait for the sellers to come to them (and that's how buyers force the price down, and obviously vice versa).
Its a bit counter intuitive but if you take the view that for every buyer there has to be seller and vice versa, then the whole " more buyers then sellers " thing is not really a reality. There are simply transactions for every sale there has to be a buy and likewise for every buy there has to be a sale.
although its broad brush I have found that once you (I was going to say buy into it) think its true it makes a lot of sense of trends and likely future movements.

no idea, i'm more a "big picture" sorta guy rather than the detail. I'll get my people to talk to your people and they can explain it.

DNP, price is 245p but buyer wants only to pay 244p... seller relents and sells at 244p Price goes down
Price at 245p but seller wants to 246p, buyer relents and buys at 246p, price goes up.

yes, because sellers force the price up

DNP, (and others), you do know its buyers that drive the price down don't you....

DNP:"Another bounce should come... MMS buy shares on the cheap and sell them higher..."

if only some on here could do that......

Zeb, the concern is the complex nature of these companies and possible links to Boo directly through the board members

MCK "But nothing’s going to happen this year. Some update in January maybe."

I disagree, I don't think it will go on that long I would expect this to bottom out in the next few days or maybe, i don't know, 2 weeks? Its too big and high profile a company to let this drag on for months and also if no more bad news from now does come out then people will be buying in expecting not unreasonably that its over. As to what price it rise to again I have no opinion at this stage. If the shorters are still in, they need to play their (if they have one) trump card fairly soon in my opinion, I don't see, unless they want the SP to rise so as to take out further shorts, what they gain by "allowing" upward momentum to take place.

Well snooze that's not what I asked. I can only presume as you seemed to put store by these 10p round number increments that you would act on them, not wimp out.
But under your logic, a day trader would have sold at 239.8p (gone short) I guess? when would he exit the trade now it is at 241p? or should he have reversed the trade and gone long? (but at what price). Apart from the 10p price increments were there any other indicators used at these critical points?

What do you do now snooze? buy or sell (239.8)

I understtod snooze but I don't agree with it...at all... But if it works for you that's good

Good point Snooze!! I meant to say 244.9p which it has so we are in the lower lows lower highs pattern.

its been in tight trading band but a fall below 144.9 would suggest further falls,

Scm, That's a bit of the problem really. When you a buy a stock you have to expect that you might make a mistake and lose money on it, whether that long term or short term. Some traders are short on the stock so what works out well for them (as you requested) is diametrically opposed to what long holders want.
Its not just the auditor news, that is but the latest on a fairly consistent barrage of negative news, including newspaper reports, Radio programs and a few MP's also asking questions.
By the time we are "fully up to speed" it will be too late if the news is bad for the holders of the stock and likewise if some great positive news comes through then the SP will jump before the shorters can get out.
This is a high risk game, much higher risk than most understand. The only question I keep on asking which no one has responded (maybe its too obvious). Why bother to trade this stock right now? You don't have to. Is a 10% gain or so, so important given the alternatives out in the markets?
The shorters are in control (unless they have closed out already, I wouldn't know), this is such an orchestrated release of bad news that you surely have to at least consider that they have not played their final smoking-gun card? (Well I do because up to now its been quite a weak show of (mainly old) news, and already the fall out has been reasonably severe, but as I keep saying, I don't know)
But as I said up top people should realise what they are doing by gambling on stocks (and that includes LTB&H). We are not normally sympathetic to gamblers that lose money, we tend to take the view that they should not have placed the bet in the first place.

There does seem to be a conduit between immediately prior govt announcements and the AVCT SP.
Obviously Friday was the latest example where the SP moved to 206p. That leak(er)/link is either deliberately misleading or is just below the level of knowing who the order is going to. In other words gets the head up on a covid test purchase and lets the broker(s) know asap.
With a quarter now of the latest time frame passed it would be helpful to get a more reliable indicator of news.