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I share your observation BB, " but we are soooo close to a (possible) huge rise on sales news, knowing my luck, I'll try selling then miss out on the rise. So I just sit watching for the RNS and hope."

unfortunately, we have been saying that since June last year. (I was exactly the same as you but in November gave up waiting and used a portion of my holding to try and trade it and as luck would have it, it has kept me making money because otherwise, depending when and where the individual bought in, its been a very hit and miss affair.

Just a guess but I am wondering if this fall which is a bit perverse given every day gets closer to a result, means that the background seller is determined to be out by drill results... And as a result has now instructed the broker to start dumping on the market as much and as quickly as possible given they still have stock left?

Might be Tree shake but doesn't feel or look like it, imo

If it is the above maybe at last, the overhang will be cleared but in any event I am frankly surprised it has taken so long to get rid of the stock order.

Oh well as always, time reveals all.

PS: how do you all feel now that wanted the lower SP?

Howz, I am not sure why you are saying "sorry Wyn"? I have never, ever, denied the need for testing. I have only, many months ago when it was clear the vaccines were being rolled out so quickly, ever said that MASS testing was unlikely now. and that proceeds would not be anywhere near the claims some made on this board at the time.
I have also stated that if the AVCT test was taken up globally then this smaller scale of testing would be irrelevant because, globally, the number of tests would still run into many millions per week.
I would state the bleedin' obvious that the longer we don't have an order, reduces the ultimate overall income from the test, as more people get vaccinated and testing lessens in necessity.

I know you won't debate it Larsh. I am suggesting a sense of proportion, thats all. We are causing terrible pain and suffering and premature death on many in this country for a disease that if you die from it you will likely have survived longer that the average life span.
Yeah, its intolerable to discuss it. God forbid there's more than one view.

Prof and all others:

If we all look at the SP swings of the last week or so we can see big ups one day and big downs the next .
What can we all deduce from that? (Ignoring TA as a predictive system)

Confidence is quite fragile for a number of buyers/sellers. And that is reflected in this BB too, its all turned into a bit of a mess with none of us really knowing what's going on and when it will be resolved. Will it be the UK, or the EU/RoW, or both or neither and when will the first order arrive and for how much, and where does Innova now sit in the mix, and all the other questions.

So based on what we do (and more importantly unfortunately, don't know), its easy to understand the schizophrenic SP daily swings. I think its also reasonable to assume that without some "good" news, then more might leave the stock increasing pressure on it falling.

(By the way, if anybody agrees with this broad overview, but does not agree with TA, well, that is TA. Discerning peoples reaction to events based on SP movements. (its a very, very short step from there to looking at what can be "predicted"going forward.

Larsh, PAHOO never answered this when I responded to him, so perhaps you will:
What's the average age of death for someone dying of Covid in the UK and what is the average lifespan of someone in the UK?

Again, I think we need to keep a sense of proportion on this. Why wouldn't young people get vaccinated? Either its because they are just lazy or they perceive the risk of a side affect of the Vaccine greater than being ill/dieing from the disease. And as we know the chance of a serious side effect is very, very small, and yet many women take the contraceptive pill which increases the likelyhood of suffering from blood clots far in excess of the AZ jab.

We seem fixated on this board to always seeing the very worse outcomes on every "possibility" while never accepting that science is developing anti virals and other various ways of combatting this dieses as well as vaccines and tests as well of course.

I am not, so calm down, denying anything just asking for a sense of balance and at the same time to remember while we fight covid, we are also subjecting many other seriously ill people to a shortened life at that expense whilst at the same time storing up untold pain and misery for "non-life threatening" operations that are delayed such as joint replacements and eye operations that if delayed too long can't be done at all, leading to those individuals being permanently crippled, blinded and needing full time care where none of those things would have happened.

Lets take it a step at a time and deal with what we know rather than just always jumping to the conclusion that the next variant Will be more deadly or Will jump the vaccine, when so far that has not been the case.

I agree with you Infins, it seems all a bit of a mess now.

Looking at the SP (I don't mean from TA pov), but just the fact that it was 260p 3 months ago and now with validation and approval for sale and the time passed and we are where we are, govt in a row with ABDX over payment, Mologic inching towards the courts, ODX stuck seemingly idle for weeks if not months.
And as you rightly conclude in this now almost "Alice In Wonderland" testing world we find ourselves in, "we are left to temper our hopes and not to believe anything until we actually see it."

Ok I read it wrong and not with the intention you have now clarified for me. Thanks,

However I am clearly not reading your posts very well as I read your sarcastic but not patronising post incorrectly too.

So although you are happy not to Filter me, I fear we will end up arguing sooner or later, so in the interests of board harmony and while we are still on good terms I will take temptation away from myself and filter you. (I mention this only in case you message me directly and I don't respond) ATB

The trouble is MC, all this manufacturing and producing in advance is a risk if no order is forthcoming.

Given the very public outpouring from other companies in this field who have had payment held up or simply not paid from HMG will obviously not have gone unnoticed by others.

Ah ST, the mind is like a parachute, it only works when its open...
(I take it no apology is forthcoming regarding the comments you denied making that you insisted I find?)

maybe ,MC, Innova don't get renewed but HMG just use the stock they have while AVCT are being manufactured? it doesn't (according to ODX), sound like anything is being manufactured in advance.

All this confusion should be explained away on the 21st, one way or the other.

Because Wildstar, I think it needs something. AVCT is making progress as we all know but it is painfully slow and constantly later than forecasted by AS.

To "just" have an update with basically wooly, waffelly rhetoric repeated again I don't think will cut it for the SP.

Hold on, would the following logic be correct?

Innova (potential) renewal on the 22nd means it expires on the 21st?

Oh well, thanks Scardey

does anyone know when Innova come up for renewal? I thought it was June, but after June 21st?

If it is 21st or sooner then that could be the big announcement? That would change everything (for me anyway), as I just think it would look very poor if we could or did not sell into our own domestic market, (for whatever reason).

Morning D, "Eve must be pushing hard in France, or trying it out in France first to gauge popularity."

That sounds plausible. Having given the market a heads up to try and develop the French market to push the company into profitability I imagine Eve will want to have some positive news on how it is going. And I think we all agree, to push on, it needs to be more than mattresses, which again, Eve is all over that too.

Morning D, "Eve must be pushing hard in France, or trying it out in France first to gauge popularity."

That sounds plausible. Having given the market a heads up to try and develop the French market, I imagine Eve will want to have some positive news on how it is going. And I think we all agree, to push on it needs to be more than mattresses, which again, Eve is all over that too.

Sorry Mr A our posts may have crossed as my response was not aimed at you. Obviously if we do get an order before the 21st that would be discussed at the presentation to great fanfare, but its looking a little subdued right now and frankly I would be surprised if anything comes in the next few days.

Even on this board the consensus is starting to coalesce around not being the sovereign test, not supplying the UK at all and being happy/relieved for it.

We have moved a long way from the halcyon days of last summer's expectations.

Don't worry Moose, she won't reply. She called me Evil once but hey, lets not resort to insults eh?

Difficult to say if Kindness and PP are the same person. Could be, I guess, does not engage in constructive dialogue and spouts just unsubstantiated ramping nonsense.
As investment BB's go, this is not the best is it?