Charles Jillings, CEO of Utilico, energized by strong economic momentum across Latin America. Watch the video here.
Well, thats the gamble.
What if they get results back that improve on whats has already been stated?
(i'm not saying they will but what was the point of the last raise if it was not enough to get more info? Why didn't they just raise more money to be able to drill what ever test well etc etc to be able to say, "This is what we have, now we can look at JV, future funding whatever")
Anyway, who knows timelines and cash burn... it s all a crap shoot from start to finish.
ES, your assumptions are based on what information?
I take it you have never gone to the bank to borrow money when you don't have enough security to cover the loan.
The "don't worry, we will trade our way out of this" approach does not cut much ice. The bank simply increase their rate on the interest to be commensurate with the risk they believe they are taking.
Why you think, after AS already sign posting that the company was overvalued, that this was not coming was perhaps the most obvious clue what was coming.
I did not see 50p coming. The fact that was the best he could get suggests this is still high risk and/or a long, long way to go yet.
Coming close to plumbing new yearly lows....
Really, really need this finance deal to be announced. The longer it stays in the shadows the more doubt creeps in.
All the other news has simply been and is being, discounted now.
You have to wonder quite what's left , even allowing for the slow grind of govt bodies, to be signed off after all this time....
"What has changed here? Are we waiting for AVA6000 approval in other Orphan Indications prior to Phase 2? Why the ambiguity if not?"
Because it seems AVCT have a pathological desire to be as opaque as possible.
Sorry GJE, I have not bothered looking at the interview as PH has long been an obvious stooge promoting AS's ambugity in a singularly positive light.
As I said yesterday all I read was that 2wd has at last started (about 3 months later than we expected). Everything else we already knew, hence the SP has fallen since the RNS.
"You are so incredibly thick you can't even read what is written."
So when you said "do you hear that wyndrum, i don't want hear it from you again that the sp reflects where the trial or the tech is. "
What did I mis interpret?
I read that you think the market through its ignorance has mis priced AVCT based on it tech and where it is in the trial.
Sorry if I got that wrong
GJE, Where should the SP be?
Really, right now, where do you think the SP should be?
60p 100p 150p? 500p
and of course based on what?
So Paul Hill extols the virtues as does MM, as does AS of course , as does loads of others, all the ones here, not forgetting the posters, the science days, the results of the doses, the RNS's going out to the whole market for anyone and everyone to read. Not to mention actual funds who specialise in bio pharma stocks.
Why would anyone sell a single share in this company, ever. I mean you could have bought it for a snip at 140p 3 years ago only recently, hurst said you would never get the opportunity to buy below 133p.
So why given the market is so stupid would anyone sell? Your premise is the "market" must have bought the stock in the first place. Were they stupid or smart then?
I am guessing they must have been smart to buy at a higher price... What made them come over all stupid, all of a sudden as the results just seem to get better and better?
I am guessing when the SP rises the market won't seem quite as thick then.
"QED it works (to some extent, in some patients)."
Exactly, thats all some of the more conservative posters have ever tried to get across.
This RNS confirms only the 2WD has started. The rest we have known for a really, really long time
I think the "muted" reaction is because this is not new news.... I would be willing to bet that the funders in the raise were told this already, hence no real reaction.
(Plus the timelines are still a ways off, so there is no rush, given the AVCt SP will still have the headwind of the bond repayment to deal with.)
but, as someone else stated, the direction is still the same... the signpost has not been reversed around.
"and I certainly was not implying anything about anyone posting here."
No, I quite accept (and didn't think) that you were, gotreal.
It tends to be those types you refer to don't actually have any affect on the SP. I am not saying they won't or can't influence some, but not enough to make any difference to the SP.
Also I have to say, I don't have an enormous amount of sympathy for those that are influenced by rampers or derampers.
If you have bought into a stock then there should have been some sort of plan and expectation. Reacting to an anonymous poster views is down to that individual. If the poster makes a case, then question them and see if more info is revealed to support their view. If they can't, then discard it.
Most rampers/derampers opinions can usually easily be seen to be what they actually are.
Hmm maybe....
We all know what happened to the SP when it was forecasted by the company that a raise was necessary. I imagine we will only hear after the fact this time.
The fact is (i think), that every day, every week, every month that goes by brings the inevitable forward.
My hope is, that there is enough money to declare the commercial viability and size of the find to then raise at amuch higher price.
Fingers crossed....
Gotreal, the pejorative language you use does indeed highlight the tension you believe to be present.
Certainly most stocks can be manipulated by a larger buyer or seller creating a "false" impression. (including some indicies)
Unfortunately the human condition, where money is involved, all too easily attracts deceit and lies and scams.
However, having said that, its not quite as easy as you think. creating a false market is risky and expensive. and requires a concerted effort maybe including the broker. As a result it tends not to be done on a whim, and certainly in my experience nothing, absolutely nothing posted on BB's such as these has any effect on a SP.
And what is a Trader? someone who buys and sells more often than a LTHolder, but how long is longer?
Personally I would define it more as: Anyone who manages their own portfolio is in fact a "trader". They make conscious decisions to buy or sell, dependent on the news and info they have at any given time. The time they hold a stock is not a relevant factor.
Both short term or long term, the goal is the same: to maximise returns. The label given to the timeframe of the holding is imo, as I say irrelevant.
Cheers
There seems to be 2 choices, TA or FA (Fundamental Analysis).
The "problem" with FA is that the SP is never representative of the company. To begin with the "latest" results, will be 6-12 weeks out of date, so its looking back. But the market, based on this out of date info will estimate (guess) what the near future (3-6, maybe 12 months) what the profits of the company will be.
So at no time is the SP ever an accurate reflection of the company. So, it then becomes on balance, what the market thinks will happen and then you are int o crowds and are they predictable yada yada yada.
The perhaps main difference then becomes timescales.
TA is looking much more short term (as is the nature of crowds to be at times volatile in their actions) whereas FA usually takes a much longer timeframe to allow value to be realised and at some stage for the SP to reflect this much more profitable company.
The problem I have with that is in this day and age, can anyone look ahead 2-5 years with any degree of (relative) certainty?
Sure if its a FTSE 100 co. maybe, but even then.....
So, for me, I find it easier to work on short time frames and take potentially smaller wins (5-25%) over a few days/weeks then hold out for maybe 3 years to hope ultimate value will be realised on much bigger gains.
Morning Muck,
All TA/Charting is, is crowd psychology at work.
If you believe crowds are predictable then TA can prove helpful.
Charts are just a graphical representation of the crowd.
But like everything its not fool-proof, so its then becomes an odds game. What is more likely to happen. And to help improve the odds of making the right forecast, various algo's based on the SP action ("Indicators"", are overlaid.
TA, at best has mixed reactions from investors but my experience is that very very few people who use TA have the discipline to use it as intended and effectively.
Cheers