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I don't think it matters too much whether gold shipped counts as sales or an increase in stocks at the end of the quarter. i think it should count towards profits in either case.

very strange trading patterns recently. Perhaps someone got annoyed with me saying that the price of POG was 8p and were determined to prove me wrong. I think we should be back there or thereabouts towards the end of the week once the current shennanigans are over whatever they are.

would be KAZ's year which is why I missed the boat in most of 2017 (apart from some volatility trading). I am about 35% in KAZ now and expect it to be well over £10 during the year but saying exactly where is whistling in the wind. I anticipate a good first quarter and will thin about my position after that.

Any ideas anyone?

$3.20 / lb. Kaz should open strongly next week.

but the $pog continues to rise back towards late October / early November levels. The £pog is not far behind but a little slower. Bodes well for the open next week. Have a good break everyone

Sotolo, you and i face the difficult decision about how to react to your favourite counterindicator under circumstances like this. My reaction is that the fool has massively underestimated the potential upside and is therefore wrong as usual

is near its October high. Stocks have started to turn up but only gently at present. I am currently basing my decision making on copper stock levels. On this basis I think KAZ has further to go on the present price cycle. I intend to watch it carefully over the xmas period as, on the basis of previous copper stock cycles, stocks could rise sharply and pull the price of both copper and KAZ baack down.

Lawrence, like many people on this board, I suspect, I have lost close relatives and friends to cancer. We know how you must be feeling, and our thoughts are with you

but after Xmas I think we could be in for a good spring. Have a happy Xmas everyone and a well mannered but informative new year

to one and all.

at the end of the day. Stocks have turned up slightly over the last couple of days but nothing strong enough to be called a trend. Kaz on the other hand fell back. Perhaps it is a little worn out from its recent strenuous rises.

And it did in fact bounce sharply off 7.6 as predicted, Contrarian. Like nvrgiveup charts are not my thing so when it works out as predicted I am impressed

Keep posting Kenj. I'm not upset. I am sure we need to keep an eye on what the company is doing with their finances. I just don't think we have enough information yet. POG not keeping the shareholders up to date with what they are doing is something which I think you can legitimately complain about

This kind of thing doesn't help http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42396938

Thanks for the compliment Istabraq. I tried reason....... but it didn't work. So in our post fact world I thought some carefully crafted b*ll**ks might work instead.

I am about 35% in at the moment but also have about 25% in each of GFRD and KAZ at present as they are also moving up nicely. I think I will ignore our counter-indicator if he pops up soon, Sotolo. Even a fool can see CEY will do well.

kenj : A void creates speculation. Avoid it. An avid appetite for extrapolating unlikely outcomes from absent facts propagates paranoia. Be patient lest you become one. Invest or divest, but once you've got it off your chest, resist the repetition of your vision of unnecessary interest on unnecesary bonds while cash piles up unused in siberian silences. A POX on all your fetid fulminations of financial fecklessness. Avast! Enough!

is resolutely refusing to post. What should we do, Sotolo? Does his indecision suggest we adopt confidence? On the main discussion point of the day, i assume there is a great deal of politics in the court case, and I am happy for the people on the ground to judge when the right time has come to push for resolution. Confrontation may backfire

I think we may have to wait until April 28th next year, when the annual report comes out, to find out what is really going with the refinancing process, but may be not even then. In the mean time the price of this share is........8p. The only reason I don't sell it is that I may miss take off.