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I highly recommend the BBC podcast 'the missing crypto queen'. While a totally different scale of operation and a proven fraud in that case so not the same as valereum, much of the behaviour is recognisable.... People not understanding what they are investing in but doing so on the basis of people they find credible, telegram groups, real crypto terminology but not backed by real products, encouraging investment from friends and family, attacking anyone raising concern hater etc. The number of parallels is fascinating, including how people reject facts and logic because they are so fully in, driven by hope and belief.

I wonder what the de-brief meet with Gary and BoD was like after the investor call. They must be laughing.

I imagine it a bit like the Mitchell and Webb toothbrush comedy sketch where they say "if we can get them to brush their tongues, we can get them to do anything" but instead it was "if we can get them to believe Vgold is better than cash and we planned all this, we can get them to believe anything".

Thanks for the summary BashM. In a nutshell Gary basically said everything is fine, nothing to worry about and gave a bunch of new promises for a future so bright it will blind. Of course he isn't going to put his hands up and admit the mess. This month it's vgold, before it was property and football teams. Valereum unfortunately have no real business, and the latest QGP situation should be a huge red flag regardless of what Gary tells you. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 20 time, I'm an investor in Valereum...

I can't join the call but it would be good to have summary posted here from anyone credible who will summarise it accurately. ie not bash or pp1 etc..

'USD $200m of QMTN Perpetual Call Certificates bearing $10.5m of interest each year (5.25% coupon, payable quarterly)' said the RNS.

If they have no cash to pay the coupon, the question is why? Given the coupon is interest on the certificates, the logical conclusion is that the certificates are not capable of paying out 5.25%. How 'real' are they or at least, what is the real quality/value? Likely nowhere even close to $200m - or the coupon would have been paid.

VGold payment is already being positioned as better than cash in the TG. While predicable, it is also incredible in it's audacity.

@goldengod , your calc does optimistically assume that the $200m investment is real money. If it's vgold/unverified notes, then the price per share is more like magic-tree-number / number-of-shares = whatever you want (but possibly effectively free). It does seem similar to the many meme-coins that get issued, where the value is whatever the issuer decides/ manages...

If it’s paid in cash and confirmed on audited accounts, it would removed ONE of many red flags I’ve highlighted. I’d definitely be less concerned for LTH than I am currently. You can call my posts what you want, but I have shared FACTS that anyone can check, and hopefully been clear when I’m sharing an opinion. What would there motivation to sell be? Same as anyone’s… profit. If SP was at 10p, given exercise price, approx £2m profit (actual money) if they can find buyers. If their ‘investment’ isn’t cash-money, but rather vgold/unverified gold, that return is rather good. This is an ‘opinion’ post so you can call it tripe, but I’m allowed to think differently to you and share my thought in an open forum and will continue as long as I wish (whether you choose to view me as credible or not).

The coupon will be paid soon, and I still expect it to be in vgold or via some other non-cash mechanism. But they don’t actually have to confirm it’s been paid or how right? So we may not know for sure until published accounts in June? Plenty of time to keep ramping. And 6-7 months since deal selling up to 1.4% per month so about 20m shares (with 0.1 pence exercise price)…

Gary Cottle

OPINION: ‘ Brilliant CEO’ (source: PP1s head)

FACT: 40% of companies he is involved with in uk have been dissolved/liquidated/in administration (source - companies house)

Also interesting that before METRIKUS SOFTWARE, he was director of METRIKUS LIMITED (perviously OMNISCIUM LIMITED) which went into liquidation. He has 15 appointments on companies house, about 6 liquidated/dissolved or in administration.

What is the link with METRIKUS SOFTWARE LIMITED?

Gary Cottle of Borough High Street resigned to be replaced by Gary Steven Cottle, also of Borough High Street. Valereum also have an interest. As an aside, maybe he is not setting up the shareholder calls as he must be very busy with hanworth park house (planning consent granted this jan). Looks beautiful.

Are you Gary’s lover PP1? If what you say is true, that would actually be very worrying. The ONLY thing Valereum /QGP have between them, after so many pivots… is Gary. No IP, no company competitive advantage…. Nothing. Just relying on Gary. So if he leaves, they have nothing. That should be seen as a major risk not the advantage as you argue. Even if it was true that he was such an incredible asset. Which he really doesn’t seem to be based on what he has achieved to date.

‘ Gary Cottle knows all the CEOs of the Institutions’.

He probably does know all the CEOs of the Institutions looking to invest $500m in Vgold. All zero of them.

PP1, have you emailed the London stock exchange and the Bank of England to let them know they can save a few quid and close down their websites? And if QGP don’t need a website, why set up a really bad one vs not bother at all?

There will be a lot of effort to pump this leading up to the 30th. My earlier prediction on how coupon will be ‘paid’ is firming up on the ‘in vgold’ option.

Click on ‘asset base’ on the new QGP website and you get a 404 error - page not found. Seems appropriate as there are probably no assets to be found. With the updated website it is clear that QGP really don’t exist other than in combination with Valereum. Which seems strange for a company managing 20billion of especially shiny gold (or maybe that’s 30billion today)

My view on how you answer that… don’t think about them as a separate and disconnected entity. What’s the point of them? They given Valereum something new to create excitement …. ‘millions’ of investment (even if it’s not cash) vgold, talk of Nasdaq, etc. sell 1.44% monthly of their 250m shares for as long as SP doesn’t completely collapse, thats still a lot of real money to be made. And one that doesn’t actually require a real revenue generating business. Without them, what would Valereum be other than some meaningless MoU’s?

Thanks for your latest AI generated explanation with zero sources as normal. Peoplepower1 is absolutely not the tiger or employed by Valereum in any way. He is completely unrelated to peoplepowerone which is spelt differently with more letters and less numbers.

So the first quarterly payment from the $10.5m annual interest (5.25% coupon, payable quarterly) is due very soon. What do people expect:

Some options:

1. Paid in full and in CASH that shows up on the balance sheet.

2. Paid in 'Vgold', heralded as an indication of the huge growth potential for those new assets, etc.

3. Paid as transfer of principle or some other convoluted financial mechanism that nobody really understands (but will be very excited about).

4. Isn't paid and the deal is shown to be a complete 'DMC'.

My view on percentage change for those:

1- 1% (I don't think there is any cash behind this to allow it).

2 & 3: Couldn't say which of these or some other equivalent variation, but between them- 95%

4- 4%. If this happened the even normally never-sceptical holders would may start to question this deal just a little, further collapse of the SP and no opportunity to sell the latest moondust dream for the next pump. So I don't think they will let that happen, as its not in their interests.

Just speculation for this post. No facts claimed, no use of AI (PP1, it can be done!). None of this speculation changes any of the core facts- QGP set up just months before the deal with no history or any deals before or since this one and a website (still down?) that does not scream "I'm a successful hairdresser' let alone a company capable of dealing with billions of assets.

Thanks for your detailed technical evaluation of the QGPhotonics website PP1. I hadn't realised you were such an expert on technology as well as investing and virtual gold, in addition to your PhD in pumping shares. Does this knowledge come from insider information? Or from AI? I thought I'd ask AI for its assessment of what you wrote. Here it is:

"probability the text was AI‑generated: 75–85%. Not 100%, because a human could have written it — but the stylistic fingerprints strongly lean toward AI.

Why:

1. Overuse of simplified analogies.

2. Highly structured, formulaic breakdown

3. Tone Consistency suggests a model, not a person.

4. Technical claims are over simplified and misleading.

5. No personal markers.

AI then offered to analyse the content accuracy, and I thought, why not:

1. “The site is built with Webflow + Three.js”

✅ Plausible but needs verification

2. “They use Ethereum blockchain for all transactions”

⚠️ Technically possible, but the explanation is misleading

Red flag:

If a company claims to use Ethereum for investment flows, you should be able to see:

• smart contract addresses, transaction history, token details, audits

If none of this is visible, the claim is marketing fluff.

3. “They use ERC‑3643 for identity checks”

❌ Highly unlikely and probably incorrect

4. “They use MPC (Multi‑Party Computation) for security”

⚠️ Possible, but extremely unlikely for a small or unknown platform

MPC is used by:

• Fireblocks, Coinbase Custody, Institutional crypto custodians

5. “They use ZK‑Rollups to make the website faster”

❌ Factually incorrect

6. Overall technical coherence

❌ The explanation mixes real technologies with incorrect use cases