RE: RNS28 Apr 2023 10:55
Headder, I agree 100% re. tech stocks - they often trade at a high forward P/E and "manipulate" eps. with buybacks (but don't forget that Apple is the biggest buyback company this last decade, and look at that SP fly...). Most of them should probably invest more in growth or at least pay dividend instead. Buying own shares at a high P/E simply doesn't make much sense - I guess IR and boards are sometimes obsessed with EPS and/or hold stock based compensation that favors buybacks, for them personally. As Buffett said, "Every small bit helps if repurchases are made at value-accretive prices. Just as surely, when a company overpays for repurchases, the continuing shareholders lose."
I'm sure it's easy to find cases for both sides of the story, but take a look at Top - an insurance company (so, as boring as it gets). Initially trading at low book value and P/E, the SP >20x'd over 17 years, buying 78% of shares back from 1998-2017 and then swapping to paying dividend instead (pretty much flat since then, +20%, but the dividend yield is ok).
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/top.co/
As for #PTAL - think about this: If share price wasn't affected (and anyone but me were selling stocks...) - how many years would it take for me to be the sole owner of #PTAL? 3? I'd wait for that.
Or let's assume the first 425 million shares can be bought back without affecting the SP - then at some point in 2025 you would get more than double the announced dividend "forever" - I would want to wait for that as well.
Anyways - #PTAL can do both the maximum allowed share buybacks and pay a healthy dividend.
So it's a win win for both fanclubs. Should we at some point be looking at a P/E of 7 or more (SP at 2 USD?) (you need just 10% growth to compete with that), I'd favor dividend return at 90%+ for #PTAL (despite having to pay 15-42% in tax on dividend across different stock portfolios/depots).