OK - Pecten11 has tagged SandyShore459! They do give off the same vibe, don't they.
Sandy, it would simply be naive to think that everyone plays by the rules or that some folks on AIM don't have inside knowledge to support their positions. I'd go as far to say that there would be some professional outfits who would quite happily feed posters with their intentions so that they both would benefit... call it the incentive model! It would be naive to think that there are not organised groups of traders/shorters. I'll leave it to your own judgement to decide whether that has happened here but in 30 years I've never seen quite the likes of what has gone on here.... the wild west, indeed!
1st of all, I didn't say 'all' recipients so please don't spin my words.
We've all got agendas, Pecten11 - I'm an investor... not a trader or a shorter. I invest in companies that amongst other things will recover and grow their sp... good, positive reasons. It follows that I will support and encourage... good, positive actions.
Credit where credit is due - I bow to your knowledge of what Atlas intentions were... I do wonder if that was down to some inside knowledge?? Have you sold lately?
Pecten11 would have you believe that there's nothing happening around here until August and, if something was to happen, then it would be bad for your holding... he's made a big assumption that the recipients of placing shares want to sell at these prices (suits his agenda)... he just doesn't get it... the turnaround is on... and it's a very good time to be holding Vast... loads of upside from here now that Atlas have gone.
Snowking - strange how you reappear to respond to my posts/imagination. If I was to speak to GR, it would be naive to think that he would divulge any bad news to an individual enquiring out of the blue. It's equally naive to think that he would divulge any good news either. In fact, there's plenty of evidence that he has led some naive folk astray with what he has supposedly divulged including yourself with all due respect.
Profitbags - my understanding is that GR was getting nowhere getting test results until Suzhou came on board. Perhaps, they unblocked things by submitting them in their name. Pure speculation and nothing more. One has to ask why we're now weeks/months down the line and why there is nothing of substance being RNS'd. There is something up!
RE: 1p should clear this afternoon22 Jun 2022 14:29
Buying low and selling high or get a huge bundle of shares on the cheap and sell high then buy low and sell high again - apparently that's how to make money on shares. I don't think that I'm saying anything ludicrous!
RE: 1p should clear this afternoon22 Jun 2022 14:14
Pecten11 - glad that I've brought a smile to your face this afternoon but, unless you know these guys personally and know their trading decisions, I don't think you can say that with any degree of certainty. Atlas are in to making money like everyone else here... do you think that they knew that the sp would bounce back? Why would they not take advantage of that?
Popped back in to see what's what and still no news. I'm even more convinced all is not well behind the scenes. Here's what I think has happened - Suzhou told GR initially that he would get an interest free loan to deliver the pilot mine but when discussions got serious, they asked for another chunk of Prem. GR refused and went to look for another backer. He also did his smash & grab which upset the Chinese even more. He can't publish test results because Suzhou have control of them. And Suzhou did not cooperate for the last RNS - that's why it had to be changed! All in my imagination but I wouldn't discount that GR and Suzhou are not the best of buddies just now!
RE: 1p should clear this afternoon22 Jun 2022 13:37
If Atlas have sold more then that would be good news but I suspect that they've decided to stop selling to hold for a significant rise... I reckon that they, more than anyone else, know Vast inside out. They've driven the sp down but will know that the sp will re-bound significantly. Wouldn't it be funny if they had started to buy!
RE: VAST in Share Talk blog today20 Jun 2022 15:43
Interesting Sandy - I might have a lower threshold for seeing the sp motor north. If Vast can show continued improvement in Q2 and Q3 then I'd be expecting the sp to rise. I'm expecting that AP will not be slow in publishing any good news in the next few weeks/months.
Paz1 - some positive news from Vast will send the sp back up. As far as Atlas is concerned, there will be an interesting dilemma. Have they been selling their holding to push the sp down? If so, when do they think the sp will have gone as far as it will go? How much more downside is there, especially if there's the chance of good news anytime? Will they start buying if the sp starts to go back up? I guess that only they themselves will know what they're going to do but their influence over the sp is much diminished now (especially if they've sold even more since last week's announcement).
RE: VAST in Share Talk blog today20 Jun 2022 12:56
All about delivery, Sandy... been investing for 30 years and never come across a share where there is such vitriol and, have to say, such a group of organised bashers. Unfortunately, the Atlas situation has been the focus for weeks/months and has coloured any news from the company. The destruction that Atlas have brought to the sp is not the same as Vast failing to deliver. Now that the influence of Atlas is reducing and that there's some progress at Vast, the circumstances are favouring a rebound in the Market Cap... was it you who referred to timing earlier... timing is looking good to invest... aimho!
RE: VAST in Share Talk blog today20 Jun 2022 12:29
Hi Sandy, whilst I'm relatively new to Vast, I do appreciate the historical lack of delivery (goodness, I've been in Prem for 5years so I know about the lack of delivery!!!) but I'm taking comfort from this statement - "With the two new Mantis drills on-site and the transition to mechanised mining, together with the implementation of long hole stope mining, significantly increased production output is expected from the end of Q2 2022 onwards." Both drills are on-site now so I expect AP to be feeding info to the market certainly be the end of the month if not before... I wouldn't underestimate the determination of these guys to deliver after the debacle with Atlas.
Two interesting RNS's this morning... I'm wondering what Atlas will do now (if they still hold). Their influence on the sp, up or down, isn't over quite yet. Can they see further downside if they sell whatever they have left? Do they think that there are other buyers hoovering up the spare shares? Will they be thinking that the sp is going to re-bound from here and wait til the sp is much higher to sell? My guess is that they'll stall selling anymore for now. Personally, I think that there is good news coming at any time and, if history is anything to go by, the sp will rocket on good news... aimho.