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SJS, any chance you can use quotation marks when using other peoples words. Some people may have other posters on filter and not get the references you are using. You are are coming across as either confused or a schizophrenic.
Just sayin' :)
Now don't you start jumping to conclusions and assuming things, Stokey.
"only one conclusion", really, just the one? You have managed to eliminate everything else. Wow, you are good.
Sure you don't want to ask the audience or phone a friend? ;)
I was trying to get to grips with some of the abbreviations and which way the , "Provision of External Financial Services" were flowing. Was it for the company or by the company.
It says, Purchaser's Detail CPD - SUPPLIES AND SERVICES DIVISION
Is that this department?
https://www.finance-ni.gov.uk/construction-procurement-delivery
Is the DfE mentioned anything to do with the Department for the Economy or am I wide of the mark?
https://www.economy-ni.gov.uk/about-dfe
As the post say's she's old, it's obviously not the "new" cable barge they have been building for the KBR and BAE joint venture, KBS Maritime. So, they could be working on the big crane barge dredger that is moored just upstream from the drydock entrance that used to be moored up at Middle Dock. But from what I have been told the yard allowed them to moor up on their patch in exchange for keeping the area around the dock entrance clear of silt. A much cheaper deal than paying TDC mooring fees, apparently. You can see it here with a conveniently place big arrow pointing to it.
https://www.torridge.gov.uk/maritimeinnovationcentre
Also, as regards being busy, you would think that they must be getting close to being on the home stretch for the Quorn by now. And there was also recent talk them working on another vessel for the freight venture down in Penzance.
As an aside, there may be good reason why they could be working the old dredger. Appledore no longer has any quay side cranes. They were dismantled years ago and they now have to rely on a local crane hire firm if they need to get things loaded on to, or unloaded from, anything on the water. Having a decent sized and opperational crane on hand may something that they going to be requiring more of in the near future. It was touched upon a few weeks ago in regard to the Xlinks Morocco to UK power project that deliverings large components via the shipyard was deemed better than transporting them by road.
Anyway, just some a few assumptions from me. :)
That last sentence in the 08:55 post reminded me a little of the opening voice over from Alias Smith and Jones from waay back. "And in all that time, with all the banks and trains they robbed, they never shot or killed anyone."
TBH, none of this regarding JMW's history is actually new or big news, anymore. Although it may be interesting for anyone that didn't know to maybe get a feel for the individual, it has done the rounds many times before and the smoke from them guns has long since dissipated. I've base my opinion on what he's done since he's been involved with Infa/Harl.
GL
I think this bit could have been written especially a certain Mr K Jones, " Those with genuine concern for UK shipbuilding would now do better to focus their efforts on doing everything possible to help support Harland & Wolff in delivering the contract on time." :)
Thanks LSE. Nice balanced article and some insight into the design process. Interesting to see the initial percentages per yard/company and that it may be shifted to a higher percentage for Belfast on subsequent vessels. Being able to visualise the section allocated for Belfast I can't see why they will not be able to a. work on more than one of the Belfast sections at a time, and b. not to be able to utillise the building dock in the short term for other work. Seeing as the bulk of the keel is being prepared by Navantia and the rest by Appledore, the building dock will not be required for laying out a keel structure and so tying it up for long periods way before it would be required for final assembly.
I will rescind my "daft idea", in as far as being a revenue generating exercise. Plenty of time to whip up a quick T2. :)
Thought they were talking about dock capacity, but okay, manpower. Nice save. ;)
The increase of manpower is okay when you have the time to increase it over time and as the workload increases to warrant it. As they seem to have been doing thus far. Training newbies up on barge construction and getting their workflow and processes in order beforehand. But issues can arise when time is a constraint as you may be forced to get in just good enough or even substandard staff just to make up the numbers. Not suggesting this was the case when they shipped in a load of Portugese welders to get the Saipem contract done as I think there were other issues there. But staffing levels are not an insurmountable problem. Helped by the fact that they have quite a wide catchment area with the four yards spread around the country. And also that staff, if willing and/or incentivised, can be moved between yards to take up the slack. Once they get into the swing of it I'm sure problems aplenty will appear and hopefully be dealt with.
11:56 should read "could NOT be worked on at the same time."
Thought the same, BT, as in similar to the barge construction. But whether that would be the case with just the three vessels as opposed to a couple of dozen in the case of the barges. IDK
Sorry, Xenor, but could you explain a little more by what you mean by, "We didn't have the capacity for FSS..." What do you think has changed since? Beside a bit of work on the fabrication halls in Belfast to fit in a new panel line, the docks are the same size and the yards haven't increased their acreage. afaia
If they have the capacity and once they have got so far into the first build then I couldn't see why mutliple "sections" for various ships could be worked on at the same time. And that is not just dry dock space, as a lot of the construction would be done in the fabrication halls before taking out to the dock for assembly. Similar to BAE's work on the order for muliple Type 26 Frigates. "Four of the Type 26 ships are now being constructed on the Clyde"
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/efforts-underway-to-accelerate-type-26-frigate-delivery/
On a similar topic I saw this regarding recent investment and remember some of these tenders being flagged up here as possible contracts H&W might have been chasing.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/recent-british-shipbuilding-contracts-a-summary/
Hmm...??? Lots of potential. But so far...
... no gas stored, no "ship" built and no ferry, run, walked or even in the starting gate.
Has the makings of a sequel to a Meatloaf song where, none out of three, is bad. :)
Sorry, but I didn't do full and proper research I'm affraid, Scaffman. :)
So fwiw, no, i didn't well know. But every day's a school day, eh.