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That's total Roomba!

UpDown

You might find of interest some of the patents that JC (and others occasionally) posts.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/06/18/can-the-airline-sector-recover.html

1. Joyson were in a different lifetime known as Takata......

I get the feeling it could be SEE!!!

https://mobile.twitter.com/semicast_res/status/1273664991984574464

The information is all out there and has been for some time. It's got to be remembered it is not GSR only but ENCAP, for Europe, that comes into the mix. Take those two together gives a better understanding of the probable way implementation of the technology will go.

The first GSR date is mid 2022, NCAP will be well up and running by that time. From the information out there it's possible to gauge how certain sectors of the market view their chances of meeting GSR or ENCAP -

GSR 2022
DMS providers - Yes
DSM provider - Yes

ENCAP 2022

DMS providers - 50/50 of meeting basic DMS
DSM provider - will meet all requirements

GSR 2024

DMS providers - No, number of issues
DSM provider. - Will meet all requirements

Obviously with some OEMs not necessarily concerned that some of their models will not get ENCAP 5 star (the VW Sharan for example) it is possible that DMS providers will win some business come 2022 models (this also plays to the dual+ providers scenario) but no more in Europe than 20% and probably less (80% of models having ENCAP 5 star). However, the problem comes from 2024 and beyond. Unless DMS providers can advance significantly they will not meet either GSR or ENCAP requirements and at present none of them seem to be investing significantly enough or have sufficient real time /world data to progress. Of course, some company like Mitsubishi may have the resources to do half the job but data is something it doesn't have.

Whilst all the time, the DSM provider sees its data bank growing exponentially.

Also, let's not forget. Those OEMs whose cars have 5 star NCAP safety ratings want to keep them and indications are its requirements for new models from 2022 are more stringent than the EUs.

Nothing has changed, simple really, why would anyone say that?

So are the red and white ones)))

The Premier League is back!!

Well if The Useless Tools can post inane rubbish, so can I)))

Glandore

Yes, it only applies to 640,000 units according to what Veoneer say!

Going back to CMD, Colin Barnden gave a presentation. One of the key points he raised, and it's true of most industries nowadays especially is that those with the most data invariably win.

Now although it may now seem SEE is going nowhere, it's position is getting stronger by the day, even by the minute. Why? Because in that time, SEEs amount of valuable, algorithm improving data increases whilst those that profess to be competitors, gather virtually none. So, every day, neither SEE or our supposed competitors announce a win, it's actually good news for SEE. At present, if you want DMS or what SEE provide if required, DSM, and is available close to 100% of the time and doesn't need more than one camera and thinks face masks are old school, the choice will be SEE.
Any prospective challenger who believes it can get to market with a product as good as SEEs, has over 4 billion reasons that it won't.

Just wait, SEE will happen.

I've always what it's like talking into a vacuum. Now I know what colour it is!

JC

Great work as always.

And a great way to spend a relaxing Sunday)))

Terry

Sorry but since I filtered a few I wouldn't know who you're talking about. Is it The Immoral One and The T*isted One?

If it is, so obvious and so very glad I don't have to suffer their unreserved diatribe.

Good luck to all genuine holders in this difficult time for the world.

(Accident) Event Data Recorder? That needs very high availability to make it worth anything.

Shallwe

Different markets, different provider. The SEYE Korean is believed to be for China where I'm sure SEYE will do well. However, not all markets are like China. I'm sure the likes of GM will be looking at using other providers for China if it hasn't all ready although that doesn't necessarily preclude SEE, other than security issues etc.

Other suppliers = SEE?

Lewbo

Yes, very good article, Colin doesn't hold back.

And as far as I am aware there's only one company that is capable of both DMS and DSM. If you can do DSM, the other's a given!

Shallwe

Er, SEE are on a loose 4 day week and have laid off a few so hardly surprising.