RE: Well..8 Nov 2019 14:01
Interesting discussion on PoO by jfk and Confounded .. I might as well throw in my few pennies worth :
While notoriously hard to call, you've still got to have some sort of broad view on PoO to play in this space. And my medium term view has changed from moderately bullish to moderately bearish in the last year or two.. and it's the supply side far more than the demand side - demand will hold up pretty decently, at least imho - that has given rise to my change of view. Including SHALE oil and better discovery and extraction technology in conventional oil generally, the potential for ongoing supply growth even at $60 Brent /$55 WTI is large going forward.. and will further outstrip demand growth going forward imho. Cartels like OPEC and friends can mitigate this to an extent by controlling supply, and I think they will try to do that HARD, as they'll absolutely need to.. or else, big ouch, but everyone still knows the supply is sitting there ready to turn tap on in short order and so the price will find it very difficult to rise. So, altogether, average $60 Brent over the next three years would be a good result imho.
NETT Profitable/ strongly cashflow generative Oilers at this level can still do decently, maybe even well -but not very well imho - theoretically.. but will they? ( they generally haven't this year for eg ) I agree they MUST treat their shareholders far better to have a chance of their s/p's doing well; and that is indeed about Dividends , Share Buybacks and ALSO about outright sell ups at good premiums to current s/p's at a one off profit opportunity or loos minimisation opportunity for existing shareholders. (it's also plenty about things like ctrl also mentions such as good business plans that ARE delivered on and less pig like behaviour on large Executive reward packages and good communication too)
Finally, even if PoO were to average higher than my guess ..lets say eg $65-70 Brent in 2020 is a possibility.. it might be somewhat academic for small Oilers now, as, taking out the afore mentioned extras of dividend etc, the share prices no longer follow PoO up anything like as much as they used do because the market believes that oversupply will always see such poo gains as relatively short lived anyway.. eg 2018 saw PoO rise back towards $80 and did the share prices, on average, go up anything like they should have had 'in context': absolutely not, indeed far - far - from.
PS: I'm amazed not to see more poo/oiler s/p bears like jfk posting on these boards in recent times.. I guess they couldn't be bothered and have busily been shorting away, or more likely - as shorting is still more for pro hedge funds types - they've been finding other sectors to play in and so only the bulls are left playing Oilers, especially AIM Oilers.