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It is from various sources all saying the same, I believe vlad implied as much in the webinair but I didnt see it so cannot confirm. What I have been told is they COULD go back to Eli Lilly and ask for permission to name them in relation to CDX but its not worth the paperwork and time involved, especially considering its near the end.
IMO Vlad has a certain understandable level of contempt and there is a certain stubbornness involved here in leaving that inconsistency, its in the RNS in black and white if people dont read it he does not care and wont bend over backwards to make it clear.
Dont get me wrong I wish it was a different Pharma like Pfizer just so I can go back to my original prediction months ago and be proven right! But no I gracefully accept I was wrong and both Global Pharmas are Eli Lilly and permission to name them as Global Co has been granted but only in relation to Lupus. I really dont think anyone at Hemo or Eli thought it would cause this much debate or confusion or maybe they would have modified both agreements at the same time.

Yep agreed, Elon musk was a fool going for CLN, it totally destroyed Tesla!!! Those shorts really owned him!
Completly irrelevant comment anyway as its a power play to get a much better offer from Eli Lilly and after that lands the SP will be that high any dilution from CLNs will be marginal anyway and frankly people wont care as they will have bagged. 12m of funding dilution when the MCap is significantly north of where it is today is not really an issue.
But hey, you know that you just dont care, you just want a lower SP to buy in with you massive £450k profits :P
You getting nervous yet? You worried vlad will drop a patent RNS today.. or tomorrow... you checking your phone for a red dot every few minutes?
If he holds off until next week I will be quite pleased, another 10-15k to buy shares with incoming, but RNS today or tomorrow and I will still be pleased to see you locked out :-)

Whilst I agree Hemo is not a Covid share, I suspect covid is still going to make us all incredibly rich, with 2 known variants of Covid 19 not protected by the vaccines in development and likely to become dominant in the coming year as they are more contagious and deadly the pandemic is not going away and vaccinations and testing is just not enough. There needs to be treatments and a cure. Go back and read the last RNS, ignore the title and look for this section:

"the Company has developed a cell therapy platform, which it is calling CBR. The essence of CBR is the programming of immune cells using a novel type of modifiable synthetic receptor to destroy viral pathogens including SARS-CoV-2 which causes COVID-19. Not only can this type of synthetic receptor potentially combat viral pathogens, it can also potentially be modified to program immune cells to destroy malignant cells causing cancer. The novel synthetic receptor has no connection to, and does not resemble, any known or widely used Chimeric Antigen Receptors (CARs, e.g., HEMO-CAR-T), and the Directors are not aware of any direct competitor for this product candidate at this time. Hemogenyx Pharmaceuticals is engaged in pre-clinical validation of two CBR-based potential product candidates: one for the treatment of COVID-19"

Few key phrases in there:
"is engaged in pre-clinical validation" - Is code for they found it, tested it and it works, now they are formalising that with in vivo and in vitro testing in mice.
"novel type of modifiable synthetic receptor" - We are talking next gen cure, I thought antibodies were the bees knees but no vlad went further. Other companies like Synergair are working on theraputics that help support the bodies own immune system fight. This is a whole new level.
"not aware of any direct competitor" - AKA Monopoly. Of serious concern here is also he has tipped the pharma world to what he is working on. Its all foreign language to me but there is probably enough in this RNS to point other Pharma towards what vlad is working on and no doubt they will start looking also, Vlad started a weapons race. You dont tell the enemy what your capabilities are unless your about ready to use them, we will see patent applications and early test results very very soon.

Had this one paragraph been in a RNS all on its own the SP would be 20-30p IMO. It got lost among the funding details. People dont want a return to lock down, testing constantly is a massive cost and impact on lives especially when most people are fine when they catch Covid. Vaccines may be rendered useless by mutations. All we need is to be able to treat people who get infected and cure them quickly, cheaply and effectivly and everything else can go away. IF this is what Vlad has discovered.... If.... If...... People can short this share down to 1p or less I dont care I will pile every penny I have into it. No direct competitor....

Global co is Eli Lilly
Eli Lilly is Global Co
Whilst I can understand the occasional confusion and newer browsers may not be aware of all the minute details it is true:
There are 2 Separate development agreements between "global co" and "hemogenyx"
One is for CDX the other is for Lupus
BOTH agreements have an anonymity clause in them so in relation to CDX Eli cannot be named and in relation to Lupus cannot be named
Within the Lupus agreement RNS there is a stated fact, Global co for Lupus is the same global co as CDX.
THEN there was alot of rumor and speculation about WHO global co was and as a result Eli Lilly gave Hemogenyx a waiver to name them and re-issue the Lupus development agreement naming Eli Lilly as the global Pharma.

HOWEVER they just never bothered to amend or change the initial development agreement for CDX which still states that Eli cannot be named.

So yes its Eli Lilly, but a technicality in the wording of the contracts means that Vlad cannot use their name officially in relation to CDX but he CAN and has pointed people to the Lupus confirmation.

Exactly, a converable note is not in itself a bad thing, certainly the terms negotiated by Vlad are excellent for us. People have just given WAYYYY too much oxygen to a few de-rampers and shorters who have a vested interest in manupulating the truth to scare people into selling. You either believe Dr Sandler and his wife, both professionals and experts with £millions at stake if this goes wrong as the biggest share holders, and who know all the facts and are positive and confident. Or you believe a couple of trolls who tried to scare investors who simply dont understand alot of the details into selling so that they could profit in the very short term.

Honestly if people are buying into the narrative being peddled by the shorters and de-rampers who are not up front about their intentions and are set to profit when people sell over Vlad then i have to question why you are invested here? This is pharma, its not digging holes in the ground hoping to hit oil or looking for rocks with gold that needs ongoing funding. Your investing in Vlad and science that is wayyyyyyy to complicated for most of us to ever fully grasp. If you dont trust Vlad then really you should sell and move on, its that simple.

Tweet with #InVladWeTrust and we will find you....

Keeping this short and sweet:
The loan will not be drawn down this side of Christmas
When it is drawn down Mint will not be shorting or in any way trying to hurt the SP
Before the Loan IS drawn down the SP will be significantly higher than it is right now.

Please feel free to screen shot the above 3 statements as they are the 3 that I am most confident about, if I am wrong I pledge to donate £1k to charity and will do a vote on twitter for people to pick the charity. *(When the sp hits like 33p and makes me a million I will donate alot more) and post proof. I care about my image, when I am wrong I own up to it and if challenged on holding etc I post proof.

Seriously this panic selling is over something that just will not come to pass, its being spread by people with vested interests in making you sell and its not to save you money, its to short or buy in lower because they believe SP will rebound.

Dzygit1980 and Russell, I get the frustration, have a look at my posts yesterday I was losing my head at the de-ramping/lies/bs that was flying about and what it was doing to the SP.
All I can say is Mint are not worried, they are offering 60M
Vlad and his wife who own the biggest slice by far in this company and have most to lose from falling SP are not worried, in fact Vlad is hinting at shorts getting burnt.
I am not worried and have added significantly
Many other investors I chat to daily have all added on the back of this drop.

The consensus among those that have serious holdings in this share is that A, the loan will either never be drawn down, or B it wont be drawn down until long after the Eli licence is signed and this is just a Power play now to force a better offer from Eli.
People can agree or disagree, right now it does not matter, if there is no placing or draw down any time soon the SP really is somewhat irrelevant, I will worry more about SP when the prospectus is issued and we are notified about a vote in the new year. As I am adding not selling I benefit from the de-ramping but I 100% will not support or engage in it even if it does help me accumulate more in the long run.

So let me get this right Suzi, your predicting a death spiral where the shares are finally worthless yet your de-ramping so the price goes lower so you can buy in cheaper so the shares you buy finally become worthless too???
Not sure that works. Either you believe the share price will keep falling or you believe the share price will rise and you just want a cheaper entry price? Both statements cannot be true.

As for waiting? Why would I wait? On the off chance the sp drops another few %? hell even if it dipped into the 7ps, thats what 5%? Why would I leave myself stressing and checking for RNS every day hoping for SP to drop 5% just to save a tiny fraction and praying that there is no RNS on any of the following in the mean time:
Patent application on Covid 19 cure
Patent application on the CBR platform
Patent application on this unique cancer cure with no known competition
IND application for CDX/CAR-T/Covid19
SAFE-HEMO-CAR-T added to Penn
CDX licencing agreement with Eli Lilly signed
And we all know that any sort of confirmation that the loan wont be drawn until next year or confirmation that Mint are looking to hold the notes for some time, even a clear tweet to this effect and investors pile in again.

So yea, SP could drop a few percent, yep I could miss out on saving enough to pay for my shopping, but I will take that over the stress of worrying what Vlad is going to do next :-) so enjoy your chasing your pumpkin level percentages, you clearly are dealing with small amounts if your able to do that. I am sitting on 3mil shares with an average well below todays price and every time I get paid I am averaging up and I will continue to do so.

Suzi, please please please short Hemogenyx. Please put your money where your mouth is, you claim to have made what 450k on hemo? well if thats true use a few 100k and short Hemo. Go on and post some proof and put your money where your mouth is lol, waster ;-)

Well so far everything he has said has turned out to be true edventually, posts about vaccines, well we know there are 2 strains that are more infectious and deadly that wont have protection from vaccine. He hinted about a different solution other than vaccine and anti-bodies, well we just saw first details of that one week ago.
There has always been small nods to investors that the next step is coming and this nod is reassuring enough for me to chill about SP.
If vlad is not worried about the SP short term neither am I, MIGHT actually get some work today...

Call me an optimist but I am expecting things to turn around in the very near future, a very cryptic post by vlad https://twitter.com/vmsandler/status/1331313509062369283?s=20 in reference to Elon Musk, and shorts posted during the summer when shorts made war on Tesla.... We all know how that ended ;-)

Lol great minds think alike, see my post just below, I have just about got it out of my system but boy I was angry at the BS earlier. End result has been positive for me personally, more shares cheaper for myself and several other very confident LTHs. I am signing off for the day lol!

Thank you, I have probably been overly active today and will cut down and go do some work, Just really got peeved with the level of dishonesty I have seen. And biggest problem with that is its hiding all the excellent news in that RNS that everyone is missing. Some fantastic posts by others today and all anyone will remember is the rubbish de-ramping. And there will 100% be LTHers who panicked, sold at a loss and will miss the news coming within weeks if not days when the SP shoots past previous highs and they will be hurt just so a few shorts can make a few quid at the expense of everyone else. If everyone had just held and invested the SP would have rose. The higher the SP the less significant any dilution would be from Mint, WHO ARE NOT GOING TO SHORT OR FORWARD SELL. And the better the offer from Eli Lilly. Its just been so self destructive today. Like I said though I have added so consider now 3mil+ shares out of the free float.

I sold everything else I had to top up here also. Too much immediacy in the recent activities, Vlad been pushing hard to get to clincal trials for all his products and also enhanced offer from Eli which I expect before XMass.

I wonder how long it will take the LTHers who soiled themselves earlier to actually look at the details and realise no Mint are not going to tank the SP as they are not idiots and buy back in again.

Be nice of Vlad to file a patent for this new Covid Cure and RNS us sooner rather than later.

Thanks to recent gains elsewhere and todays drop I am closer to 3mil shares now and took some cash from Microfocus so I should not complain, but this is sill a real p1$$ take, the fall in SP is so fake and unjustified off the single best and most promising RNS I have ever read. People listening to scare stories, BS and just lies. Well all I can say is thank you for the extra shares

Ignore the spam de rampers and shorters.
There is nothing to fear but fear itself... And spiders, fear and spiders.

This is no different than a placing, which agreed nobody likes however the fact remains, any action that Mint would take is forward selling not shorting. And with only 10% discount they risk losing a fortune if they tried. They get too many shares to risk that.
IF Mint had offered say 5 mil in tranches of £500k with 25% discount I would agree with you, but their margin is just too tight, they would be complete and utter idiots to agree to 10% discount with 0% interest on £60mil without some reassurance that the SP will go up.
And yes with that extra finance comes dilution, HOWEVER fact remains the same, if that dilution drops the SP more than 10% they still lose out and thats not their business.

We would all like free cash with no strings attached, but its a business Mint want to make cash, they only profit if the SP goes UP or stays flat and they could then take 10% but that is pathetic returns, you really have to question would they be willing to go out on a limb for at max 10% profit if that was their intentions?

SNewby
Thats the frustrating thing about this whole pointless debate lol!!! Everyone is hung up on the finance and missing the big picture! In terms of timeline:
HEMO-CAR-T has been with Penn for months now, its sponsored but Hemo have to stump up cash for IND. As soon as hemo have cash thats done, IND application and Hemo becomes a Clinical Pharma and suddenly people will take notice, its a big deal, IMO everything is sitting ready they just need cash, either from Mint or Eli Lilly.
CBR Patent, its new and novel, its cheap to patent, for sure Vlad and Mrs Vlad will be rushing to get this protected ASAP and as soon as that happens HOPEFULLY in a standalone RNS and it hints at a cure for Covid?... No reason that could not drop any day, they kept it secret for months, they would not reveal it without preparations to protect it.
SAFE-HEMO-CAR-T added to Penn and tests complete - No reason to delay this, expect this any day now, funding not required.
Eli Lilly CDX licencing agreement. - ZERO evidence to suggest Eli wont sign, but even vlad has indicated on twitter, this deal gives him much more leverage in negotiations with Eli. Clearly those negotiations have already begun and vlad decided he needed some leverage so they must be finalising the figures now, I expect it signed before Christmas and expect others to agree and FOMO to kick this into gear in the coming weeks because of that.

Finally its a simple question, Mint can only make 10% by forward selling and even then if SP tanks they lose. They are offering 60 million. Does anyone really believe they would have passed DD and approved this loan on a nod from Vlad that sometime in 6 months they may sign something that might make money? Mint are aware of immediate and significant developments that will be a inflection point for Hemo.

So timeframes? Within days or weeks we will start seeing news. As soon as there is funding from either eli OR the loan..... you REALLY want to be invested before this happens. You can worry about Mint and their 10% discount and ignore everything else if you wish, Ill not be selling.

Digittt, how does that make Mint different from anyone else? Anyone with enough cash can short a company and if it works make money off it?
If Mint are sitting on 12mil worth of stock and they start selling the stock to force the SP down they lose cash... Yes they could take out a short BEFORE they start doing that but they would have to short millions of pounds before they start selling and by that stage the SP is already in the gutter.

I am sorry but there is just no way that shorting/forward selling/dumping stock makes Mint any money. They are investing because they believe the SP will rise. All this constant bs, rubbish rumours about shorting etc is giving oxygen to a debate that should not be happening because its utter tripe. Mint want the SP to rise plain and simple. They have inside information and know the company is about to go clinical.

Why on earth are so may people who I dont believe are shorters even entertaining this notion? its toxic to this forum and toxic to the investor pool. At some point Mint will convert shares and we want the SP to be as high as possible before then as it reduces dilution. YES THERE WILL BE DILUTION but I would seriously hope the SP will be significantly north of here before that happens and with the extra finances I would hope the SP continues to shoot north even with dilution.

Did anyone actually read past the 60m loan part of the RNS?

STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS.