Member Info for Gitfinger

Klunk
I hear what you say, but unfortunately that’s not what Jimmynan says…he states that the integral batter is used as a way of effectively topping up the woeful 10kw output in order to justify its apparent commerciality.
On the basis that there is a 400 kWh battery pack available for static installation, that effectively means that it would be able to store the maximum output that the power tower can put on a working week, so on that basis, you could effectively replace a power tower (or indeed charge from a mobile peer to peer rapid discharge unit) with a 400 kWh battery pack and simply replace it weekly and have exactly the same capability. The difference is, of course, that a batter pack isn’t a complex piece of cutting edge technology that needs careful on Ito ring and maintenance.
The point I’m making is that jimmy any attempt at justifying the meagre output has just blown up in his face, because that by justification has, if correct proved the fact that the thing isn’t actually viable as a commercial product..

Jimmynan
So let me get this straight. The amazing tower of power has a bank of batteries in it, which is trickle charged by the fuel cell, just in case you want to boil more than three kettles. You have to make the hydrogen, transport said hydrogen to site, put it through the amazing catalyst thing to generate the electricity AND THEN STORE IT IN A BATTERY……here’s a wizard wheeze, why not just charge a bunch of batteries on a trickle charge direct from renewables (thereby eliminating many of the energy losses which arise in the generation of the hydrogen and subsequent conversion into electricity) and then deliver the batteries to site…. QED the whole fuel cell malarkey has been made irrelevant / obsolete / not cost effective in one fell swoop….I suppose it could be that batteries are seen to be a bit carbon / resource expensive, but no doubt if they are integrated into an irrelevant fuel cell thing that can’t act as an on demand supply, then that’s all right then in deluded world.
What is it with you people, can you not see that this concept is becoming less relevant / commercially viable by the day, and that the units out on test are simply a desperate attempt to keep the thing alive, which only works because those testing the units (at whose expense, we really don’t know) see it as a cheap way of eco virtue signalling. Show me a genuine sale of an actual product and I might begin to believe that this isn’t just one big piece of hocus pocus….
I challenge you to prove that the business case for the convoluted fuel cell concept is a more sound one than the battery drive n proposal outlined above.

Weasel words again….no specific rose tinted comments to be found, but the underlying sentiment is undeniable…apologist in chief…..

Bovril
Are you not confusing consumption with load? I agree that, in your example, the kettle will have used 0.04KWh of power, but if that kettle has a 3000W rating, then it will be placing a load on the supply of 3000W. Whether it places that load on the system for 125 seconds or 125 years is an irrelevance, because the simple fact is that the amazing tower of power can only deliver a load of 10KW at any one time, ergo, just enough to power three decent kettles. If we are being pedantic, then said amazing tower of power could support the load put on it from two domestic cookers.....

To be fair, if the booze actually drinkable, it will be the first time that a saleable product will have been issued with AFC branding on it.....Or, alternatively, it could be that you have been sent the initial trial batch, which you will need to critique, and then report back to the distillery, who will then develop a new improved version, that will be sent out on test, all the while saying that the world beating super gin is just around the corner......

I'm so glad that the bottle of gin looks lovely, I just hope that the contents of the bottle have more energy density than the product purporting to provide the energy to make the stuff.....A box the size of a telephone kiosk needed to provide the power to run three electric kettles......Wow!

Johnny boy, pray tell me what my supposed alter egos are……as for untrustworthy, I would say that, at the moment, the realists who have been sceptical are proving to be more trustworthy than this who are completely in denial, and continue the relentless ramp…..but no doubt you and your conjoined twin haggis would disagree….

Yup, hands up, shot from the hip and got it wrong…….still think you’re one and the same, and beg you can’t post simultaneously though……
I admit, a totally baseless allegation, but really no different from the allegations of bashing being levelled against the realists……

Bet you can’t post simultaneously though….

Alt and Pommygit…..posted within one minute of each other….quelle surprise!

I am of the opinion that Pommygit is an alter ego of another poster on this board. If you look at his posting history, you will see that he miraculously spontaneously came into existence precisely at the point that I was in a major spat with Alt, and the whole thrusts of his post at that time were to affirm the views of Alt. Interestingly, Pommygit plays the innocent fool, and doesn't actually say anything of substance, other than a pretty wet sort of opinion, similarly Alt never really gets drawn into and particularly confrontational positions, so maybe there is your answer, we certainly know that Alt has a history of changing his user name in the past, and surely running a psudonym at the same time is only a small step away. Interestingly, I do wonder where the handle "Pommygit" came from, especially as the original Git isn't form Australia, try a bit further south...
Just saying....

or it might not be......

If you were the paymaster of the bashers / rampers, would you not monitor their output, and would you not question the increasing lack of credibility generated by the randomers who are supposedly in your employ, and tell them to either come up with something credible, or shut the ……up?
Agreed there are indeed bashers and rampers out there, but they tend to operate in a wider sphere than this secluded backwater…….note the SEC comment…..it talks about INFLUENCERS who are different animals to loons…..
Alt…..I hear what you say ref Lanstead, but the main driver was the strategic offloading of shares into the market…..

Season of goodwill and all that, I personally don’t believe there are such things as paid bashers or rampers. Any sentiment put forward by any of the rabid nut job extremist posters who are labelled either basher or ramper is likely to have an infinitesimally small effect on market sentiment as a whole, simply because their views are extremist. The only thing that truly shifts the price is a development within the company that imbues the market as a whole with either confidence or concern, in this case either confirmation of sales, or conversely failure to meet performance metrics or achieve sales forecasts.
Put yourself in the place of a trader (I’m talking proper traders, who actually have proper skin in the game, would you either a) create a false market by artificially generating pressure by systematically buying in at a ever inflating price (because of the gearing, it doesn’t take a lot)
b) generate fear in the market by offloading at ever decreasing share price (because of the gearing, it doesn’t take a lot)
c) pay a bunch of random individuals to post drivel on boards like this that no one takes the blind bit of notice of.
I put it to you, sirs, that rampers and bashers are a myth, it’s just a case of overly excited enthusiasts or disenchanted holders who are currently Sal on a loss simply looking to vent.

Garonne
Have you thought about it this was. The COMPANY is responsible for developing the product, and getting it to a place where it is commercially viable, and NOT AB. He is not a scientist, but a CEO, and his role is to make sure that the company firstly has the resources to continue development, and secondly generate interest in the product ahead of its release.
Ask yourself, how is the company being funded? It’s current cash reserves are as a result of a very considerable equity issue, and without this, the future would be looking decidedly bleak, as cash reserves would be insufficient to support the significant development work required to transition the concept to a viable product.
Ask yourself, who were these investors, and how would they be persuaded to invest? My guess is a pretty optimistic pitch presented by AB, which no doubt set out all of the various things that have yet to be delivered.
On the basis that the company may well have failed without a significant cash injection, it could be argued that the shareholder position has been significantly improved as a result of the apparent spin and balderdash you so frequently criticise. Obviously this applies mainly to longer term holders, and anyone who bought in off the back of the spin really only has themselves to blame, as it us, after all, AIM.

Garonne
A question for you. Is your problem fundamentally with AB, or the company?

Alt
My recollection is that the comments about the shortcomings of Kore were after a long period of radio silence, and the situation was self evident by the time the company commented, and I believe that this was only after pressure from certain shareholders. I don’t believe it was flagged up by the company. But in response to awkward questions being asked…..

Klunk
You asked for my take on the EXE decision, so here it is……The company has yet to deliver a fuel cell product to market, and it was mindful that it needed some PR to keep up the momentum, and the EXE series was heaven sent, as it ticked all of the eco virtue signalling boxes. It was unlikely that the company could deliver a system which could deliver the requisite power on an on demand basis, and accordingly needed a large battery storage buffer, which , because of the significant carbon cost associated with battery production, let alone the issue of lithium sourcing, meant ghat the solution did not totally fit with the EXE agenda, and therefore they were ultimately going to look for a solution that provided a better fit. AFC was unlikely to be able to deliver on this requirement, so on the basis that discretion us the greater part of valour, withdrew from the arrangement, having obtained significant media coverage from season 1.
Personally, I think it was a master stroke to generate PR that the company did from what was, at the time, something which was effectively a development mule.
There will be no announcement from AB on this, because the company has never flagged up anything that could be perceived as representing any kind of failure.
My thoughts on AB? Possibly over promised before, but to a large extent has his hands tied until such time as the company actually has a proven product that it can sell.

Oh, you give us too much credit!
Simple words will not affect the share price....

Daz
They've probably all been catfished at some point as well, and are probably still insisting that the old dog is still a babe......
And are still waiti9ng for that nice Prince to deliver the $27 million petro dollars.....