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We don't know whet the effects on the catalysts are when using dirty hydrogen. The trade off has always been price v longevity, and we still don't know the lifespan of the catalyst in any AFC product, because the information just isn't out there

No I didn't+
Errrr How is that going to work then? If JCB have invested in developing a hydrogen powered INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE, and as a result, we have a fully mature hydrogen infrastructure, why wouldn't the manufacturers of diesel gensets simply develop a hydrogen powered INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE to power their generators? The thing is, JCB looked at fuel cells and batteries before going into Hydrogen IC engines, and chose that route because the knew they could get the technology to work. On the basis that (as already mentioned) we don't know whether a fuel cell is commercially viable why on earth wouldn't a genset manufacturer do the same.

Get your threads right....I'm asking for the answer to the conundrum over whether the company has misrepresented itself on its website, or simply can't sell the product its offering....

"Because if you get them to work they are more efficient"
You made the statement, It's up to you to back it up.......

And the answer is......

Show me they're not......

Read the original post. Hydrogen infrastructure. No one said anything about AFC. My understanding is that the comparative energy losses of a fuel cell and an IC unit are broadly similar, if you can point me in the direction of something stating otherwise I shall be grateful. The other advantage of using an IC unit is that, whilst there may be wearing parts, there are no catalysts which degrade over time, and accordingly the CAPEX on an IC unit is significantly less on a whole life basis. The other fact is, of course, that we simply don't know how much a Power Tower would cost in comparison to a genset, because we have NO IDEA about prices......for all we know, the Power Tower could be to AFC what the Bugatti Veyron was to VW group (an amortised loss of £4M per unit)

Oh, that's all right then.
Just one question. On the website, it says that the Power Tower is available to order today. The company can only state that the product is available to order if there is indeed a fully certified product, otherwise it would invite expressions of interest in a product under development.
If the unit is still out on test, then the company has materially misrepresented the status of it's product offering, or conversely, if the website is to be believed, the product is market ready, but none of the qualified leads have been converted into actual sales...which is it?
Oh, and another thing, the company sales team still isn't responding to enquiries placed in July 2022...which speaks volumes...

Errrr How is that going to work then? If JCB have invested in developing a hydrogen powered INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE, and as a result, we have a fully mature hydrogen infrastructure, why wouldn't the manufacturers of diesel gensets simply develop a hydrogen powered INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE to power their generators? The thing is, JCB looked at fuel cells and batteries before going into Hydrogen IC engines, and chose that route because the knew they could get the technology to work. On the basis that (as already mentioned) we don't know whether a fuel cell is commercially viable why on earth wouldn't a genset manufacturer do the same.

"Though they have the power tower running in the field with several companies and a fuel tower too. We wait to see where they are with the larger systems".
We haven't seen any performance metrics on anything yet, and until we do please stop PRETENDING THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY ANY SALEABLE PRODUCT before even thinking about the larger systems.....

Viva the apologist! He's back on sycophant row! nothing like a good old positive delusional spin, is there Bumble....
I still think that Kemit and Fozzie will be offended....

Ah, relativity.......Interestingly no one has yet got a unified theory that works on both the cosmological and particle level......

Bumble.
That's a bit rich! you're using the term "Muppet" is a derogatory way.......don't you know that Muppets have feelings, just the same as Disney characters........
Wide angle lens....hahahah! more like wide angle fridge door...........

The simple fact is that the company HAS INDEED received a significant amount of money from shareholders. This is a fact that cannot be ignored. However, what does need to be remembered is that someone paid a very significant sum for the shares at a significant premium, and that actually give me some hope. This is because it is inconceivable that funds of the magnitude we saw cannot simply have been spaffed AFC's way without there being some kind of due diligence being done, and accordingly we live in hope that the big money invested in the company at least with some assurances on the deliverability of the products in the pipeline.

Not actually the case. The Germanic folk are more inclined to follow advice than the Anglo Saxon, who simply cannot be trusted to do as requested. Sage (which has a number of psycolgists on board) took the view that, in order for the Great British Public to take COVID seriously in the first instance, they needed to create a climate of fear, and thus good old Blighty ended up being the sick man of Europe because we counted every death where COVID was remotely relevant as a death cause BY COVID as opposed to WITH COVID. Any, boy, did it work, there are still people wearing masks whilst driving cars ON THEIR OWN....massive damage done to the mental wellbeing of a significant number of UK citizens.
Conversely, Germany, not having to create a climate of fear, because their people are generally more inclined to follow orders, took the view that they only needed to record deaths caused as a direct result of COVID, which is the reason for the significantly lower numbers in the first wave.
If you want to check out the facts, download the NHS COVID deaths data spreadsheet, do the odd sift and sort, and you'll see that in the UK, 91% of all COVID deaths in the first wave were in those over 60 with 98% having at least one pre existing condition.

Dark side? nope, realists with genuine concerns that have yet to be proven wrong.....OK, and a couple of loons as well....

Sort of agree
No paid rampers but conversely no paid bashers, simply super enthusiastic people who have invested a lot of emotional energy, and those of a more sceptical bent......and a few rabid peripheral ones on both sides who should simply be ignored...

If the Telegram site is so so much more civilised, why waste your time on here?

Let's be honest, no one takes a blind bit of notice of anything Haggis posts as it's all complete delusional drivel. He's quite entitled to his opinion, but making out he's the great investment guru, don't make me laugh.

May only need one finger at the moment........