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Ref the AIM comment……..I think he just forgot to put the statement in quotes…..he know we know he’s been here for ever and a day, and he’s of the Uber persuasion, so stop picking on him!

“This trial is winding with more companies involved, generating the data that Is required for future commercial activity”
Indicates a non market ready product…..website misleading?

Forget building sites and car / flying car chargers, H2 powered boats is the future. The Vard thing is the future, and might just be the catalyst for our little company to be the multi billion thing that we all hoped it would become…..I’m guessing that the staff at the company are all beavering away getting the first proof of concept for the marine application ready as we speak…….

Another poster has mentioned the same thing, so I don't believe its an isolated case of "Gitphobia". A simple response of "give me your company number" would give the company a very simple way of filtering out the loons, and that's to look at the balance sheet strength of the last published accounts; we do this all the time for new enquiries, and it does, in fact, work very well. If they simply don't respond (and how likely is it that they are going to be inundated with enquiries in any case) then what on earth is the point of a "contact us" section on the website? Surely, if they fail to deliver a simple response to an email, then what hope is there that they can deliver a cutting edge piece of technology?

Bumble
"And that is my point DWch, you have deleted all of your past history giving you a convenient excuse to deny what you have said"
But you've done exactly the same thing as him, namely to delete your earlier posting history, which conveniently means we can't re visit anything that you may have said in an earlier guise (or two)....if you see what I mean....

This is the whole problem. We are a leasing company and were looking for first mover advantage, but the company fails to respond to ant enquiries; we are a relatively large organisation who can self fund a seven figure purchase, but we have yet to hear anything from the company. It is this particular lack of willingness of the company to respond to leads which is most concerning.

I would like to know when we are actually going to get some reliable performance metrics out of the company. Its all well and good waffling on about deployments of units, extending lease contracts, 8,000 hours and all that, but as at this particular point in time, there has been no release of any information whatsoever to support the argument that the company has a commercially viable product.
The sad fact is that an RNS can be written in such a way as to be open to interpretation, be that erring on the optimistic, or the pessimistic, and as such, is generally pretty useless if viewed in isolation.
Can we please see something from the company that states that "We have a product that we have developed, and it is capable of providing a mean charge of X for Y hours a day, and will use Z cubic metres of H2 in order to produce said charge. The consumables cost of running the unit over a period of A days is B pounds, and the capital cost of the unit itself is C thousand pounds"
If you look at the company website, there is no such hard data, and in the absence of this, I believe that there is still significant doubt about whether the thing is actually viable.
You can spout all you want about the deployments that have taken place, but we don't know on what terms, or whether these particular deployments will actually lead to sales and it could be argued that they could in fact have been places there as a part of a symbiotic sham where AFC is seen to be progressing (albeit at a glacial pace) and the so called customers are being fed a pot of very cheap greenwash.
Basically, I just get the feeling that we are all little mushrooms......

Bumble
Strange, but don't seem to be able to see any of the posts from your former handle Alt-muddle pre dating your resurrecting the Bumble handle in January. A bit rich levelling criticism at DW for simply doing what you appear to have done...

And no, neither of the two I was thinking of to is Ade. Love him or loathe him, at least he's not on a continual loop, but sometimes finds new and inventive ways of winding the ubers up..

M3
The accounts were actually submitted to Companies house late. possibly a little fishy, but certainly not a carp.

Bumble
Who do you think? who keeps repeating the same stuff ad infinitum?

Does anyone here actually know how shorting on AIM works?

Bumble
There is a fundamental difference between healthy scepticism (which adds balance to a debate) and continual shouting at the wall criticism, which serves no purpose. There are only a couple of exponents of the latter (as there are only a couple of exponents of the mirror image, so the simple answer is to simply ignore and starve them of the oxygen of response, as if they have nothing to rail against, then the idiocy of their rants becomes self evident if continually done unilaterally.
Just a thought….

Even worse form is not filing on time, which the company has been guilty of in the past, so I wouldn’t use the end of April as a hard cut off date for info coming from the company…

Klunk / Bumble
Certainly not linked as I don't do Twitter / Linkedin. As mentioned, if you want to make contact Bumble, quite happy to provide evidence, but don't make comments like "Easily said on a forum like this whether true or not" if you're not prepared to see the evidence, you simply can't have it both ways...

Bumble
I do in fact have proof that a leasing company of significant size who could self fund any purchase reached out to the company in July stating that it was interested in obtaining a first mover advantage and asked for details of CAPEX and running costs, to which no reply has yet been forthcoming.
If there were reservations about the validity of the enquiry, AFC could quite easily have asked for mo info, but nothing…..I can forward a copy of the enquiry privately is you need proof….

Should have read “We will have to wait (and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait) for all to be revealed on that one Git”
So now anyone that ask difficult questions can be ignored because they don’t / haven’t attended the AGM.
The fact that the sales enquiries aren’t answered speaks volumes………

Heaven forbid AFC misleads anyone…..product ready for order per website, but unit still out on “real world test”….ad infinitude….

Bumble
Errr…..yes, that’s generally the way it works….a company develops a product, proves its capable of doing what it says on the tin, and then markets it….the customer decides whether or not to but based on the quoted performance, and relies on warranty in respect if any product reliability issues…..let’s not lose sight of the fact that this isn’t a nuclear power station, but a 10 Kw genset…what additional data can be gleaned from so called “real world testing” that won’t have been obtained by competent in house testing?

"Would be interesting to know what commercial terms were involved in the lease of the tower and supply of hydrogen"
Yes indeed, it would, but don't hold your breath, it's all about "showcasing" and "teaming up" which basically means all the other party has to do is let AFC plonk their box onsite, and pay all of the bills under the heading "that's all OK, because we are getting meaningful real life data" which is in fact no more meaningful than they could / should already have got from their lab teste before the units were ever allowed out into the real world....This is all about buying time, and no more, our only hope is that they are buying time pending the ABB thing being delivered and proven to actually work.