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Bumble
You know what, that last sentence looks like it was written by your old mate Pommygit......now I wonder what's happened to him.....

I was actually referring to something being posted and then deleted because it touched a nerve, maybe its because the person who had it deleted doesn't like being asked to comment on whether its a case of the product still being in development and the company website being misleading, or the product is market ready, but just can't find a market....

Oooo....someone's a bit touchy B

I most certainly do! Bond going now during a period of radio silence would be catastrophic for the share price, because it would send a message to the market that he has been unable to deliver on his buoyant rhetoric. Far better to keep him in place until we either generate sales, or get confirmation that the latest iteration of the product isn’t viable; at least if he is in harness he will be more accountable than if he simply disappears over the horizon with his fortune which may, or may not prove to be excessive, depending on the ultimate sales figures.

Yup, I do indeed have a point.....so now its abrasive, as well as combative...at least you haven't resorted to actual "con man trader / non shareholder / basher"....which is nice.....
What Bumble needs to appreciate is that there is a difference between scepiticism (which is healthy) where people question things in an even handed way, and relentless bashing. Conversely there is a difference between genuine enthusiasm and complete denialist inability to accept anything than the uber party line that all is well in AFC world, which, at the moment has yet to be proven.
As a SHAREHOLDER of long standing trust me, I WANT the company do do well, but I ALSO want the board to be a place for balanced discussion, rather than the single party state some are seeking it to become.

Not combative, just fed up with a situation where more false positives have been spun up than in a dodgy batch of COVID tests…

Fine words, but I’m afraid I can’t see it happening, the Uber positives will NEVER allow anything that remotely questions the performance of the company to be posted without being countered by either a straight insult or some cleverly constructed positive spin forthcoming…That’s the thing that gets me, the complete denialist culture that pervades to the exclusion of all other views…welcome to a mini 1984….

Bumble
It may be predictable, but not proved unfounded yet…..I’d be absolutely delighted if this thing comes good, but just fear that this could simply be another false dawn.

Bond appointed director 2012, CEO 2014 and 2016 company published that Kore was going well…..you can hardly imply that it didn’t happen on his watch……I think the concern is that the radio silence could be a precursor to “a little piece of history repeating itself” in that there’s a load of positive spin about something that could end up being a non - produce (or maybe one still in development even though the website says it’s available to order, or ready for sale, but no one wants it…..never did get your take on which it might be…)

Can someone remind me, what ever happened to Kore? I seem to recall that we were told that everything was on track, and that, in January 2016, the thing was producing 85 percent of its nameplate target....and then it just vanished.....

Bumble
Ah, that's OK then......

Klunk
I don't actually have an appetite for an argument. What I do have an appetite for is exposing some of the extremely rose tinted comments on here for what they are, simply products of wishful thinking with a very tenuous link to anything that's actually going on in the real world. You referred to the urban airport thing; I would ask what palpable benefit was derived from that exercise.......

Klunk
The difference is, when you go into a Porsche dealership, you actually know that the product actually produces the horsepower that the company says it will, because there is actually published performance data, which has been verified before publication. In this instance, NO published performance data is available, so you are comparing apples with pineapples.
The dealership analogy doesn’t work in any case, because if you are known to the dealership (and not simply a random tyre kicker) they are actually quite happy to fire up the demonstrator even on an ad hoc visit.

Klunk
If it’s not actually producing 100 kw you may as well show a cardboard box, because a shiny box producing nothing is still just a bloody box….

Bumble
So answer the question, is there a saleable product that isn’t selling, or is it in development and the websites misleading…

Bombastic? No, I’m just looking for an answer to a question that possibly might be a bit difficult to answer. That isn’t unreasonable; the problem is, when a difficult question is posed, it goes on a pile marked “a bit difficult” and ignored in the hope that the poster may forget about it.
And yes, I do indeed hold a significant number of shares in this here company, and having invested am of course keen for it to do well, what I do have an issue with is the complete denial that progress may not be going as well as hoped. Uncomfortable as it is, the fact is that there has been very little actual hard evidence of progress, which is fine, but we really don’t need apologists making excuse after excuse.

Any answer yet Bumbke?

No actual performance metric though….

The matter of relative efficiency is far more nuanced. The quote pointed to relates to automotive fuel cells, which by definition are more efficient than alkaline fuel cells, talk about comparing apples with pears.....now find a document that compares an alkaline fuel cell with an IC unit......