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Agreed, with a further point that the sells far outnumbered the buys on two of those days according to the data from this site. (including the days it went to 107p then 108p), and for those who knew about may have made a nice profit. Therefore, the price was affected by the intensity of that buying. As you quite rightly say, ther was no need for that considring the length of time they have to carry out the buying. I can't see where that benefitted holders of Man shares as the price quickly dropped back down to the GS's starting price. I can understand that it ought to in the long term but as mrtibbs has said, it did't happen on previous times. My main point of course, is that GS should not have tried to influence the price by either the intensity of the buying or by the timing of its reiteration. Why would they do that, a bit fishy to me.

I agree that they were just acting for their client, but they certainly did not have to reiterate the very day they finished pumping up the price to 108p and telling everyone who bought in the past few days they have been misold as they are only worth 95p tops.

Yes, interestingly Goldman Sachs buys 2m or so on behalf of Man Group pushing up the price from 102p up to 108p then wades back in with target price of 95p. What a coincidence, something in the wind?

Have just read the latest broker ratings and see that Goldman Sachs is holding us back at 95p. Goldman Sachs, isnt that where Manny came from before GLG? It is bringing back awful memories of being fleeced a couple of years ago of my CWW shares, even though though Vodafone boasted they had offerred over 90% premium. Similarity is that the then CWW recently instigated chairman had been on the Vodafone board. Whether, or not that was significant I do not know, but Vodafone's claim regarding their offer price was in contrast to what many of us holders thought, including Orbis, (quoted as the largest CWW shareholder at that time). Hope my fears are unfounded as I need a big big big increase in todays price to break even on many of my EMG shares.

Then you must be doing better than Numis, stepptoe, if their advices over the past couple of years on EMG are anything to go by. Even Jefferies have deserted them and shot up their target from 70p to 100p. So it looks like somewhere near to 100p is the support level if past trends are to be followed. .Only my opinion.

03-Mar-14 Numis Securities Sell 67.00 67.00 Reiteration How desperate are they. Does anyone follow their advice?

28-Feb-14 Jefferies Hold 70.00 to 100.00 Upgrade

As for MAN looking for acquisitions, I wonder, in the light that ii's appear to find MAN investable again, if a predator might not now be taking more interest in acquiring MAN. Especially as costs have been much reduced, have cash in hand and have now reduced the dividend to a more normal amount. A less than 50% premium on todays high would bring that often bandied figure of 150p. (Just my thoughts while contemplating selling at a substantial loss or hanging on).

Meant buys and sells are almost equal

Looks like the marketeers are pushing on up to clean up the 96p's. Strange that, of the 50,000 shares traded, almost every sell is equally being bought. In my opinion many of these will be ii's expecting a further 20% or so on their purchases. Also, AHL has quietly added another 1.1% so far this week.

Paul, yes I agree, but symphathise with those like myself who have bought them much higher. However, as for a improved trading range, the 'brokers' don't seem to agree. But could that be a good sign?

Jackd is right:- 'Surely, anyone knows how many shares they bought at different prices, on different dates, from record of contracts'. Quite correct in my view especially regarding disposing of shares tax purposes. Brokers usually provide access to the recent required data, however, they may not keep records of long standing data. Keeping an eye on overall averages, with and without the dividends, can be useful. Paul is also very correct in saying 'people getting it wrong all the time and mistakes can be hugely costly' if it is not done diligently. Especially when chancellors alter the rules. However, price still going well, 93.5p. Can this become a 95p - 125p range share?

Well done Makinhay and those who did similar. Results are good, at least better than what most 'shorting' analysts would have wanted. Dividend is disappointing, there again, the reason I stopped looking on this as a dividend share was as I posted Aug 2 last year:- 'my research doesn't show that GLG ever paid more than two measly dividend payments between 2007 & 2010'. And lets face it GLG have not only taken control over Man Group but are 'asset stripping' AHL clients into GLG funds. That appears to be stabalising the company somewhat into a 80p to 125p (at very peak) price range. Good for many investors but not for the 'old guard' unless like MR they have reduced their average. However, they did participate in the now defunct lucrative divis and Mr Roman' GLG could have saved them from a complete collapse of Man group. Waiting to see what the 'Institutionalised investors' will do after 9am, possilbly eventually going to 96p?

Must be a well kept secret whatever it is, very little movement either way. Let's hope it is good news.

Anyone any ideas as to why there has been no presentation of AHL est nav since Feb 4th?

Agree with Maltman's logic, especially after reviewing history of the merged companies, Man, GLG, (not forgetting FRM). GLG itself was valued at $2.91 on the NYSE before spiking from $2.91 to $4.36 overnight as of 14 October 2010, (Wikipedia). $2.91 roughly equates to £2 per share at exchange rate of $1.50 to £1. Furthermore, According to Bloomberg Aug 2 2013 – 'Man Group Plc, the world’s largest publicly traded hedge-fund manager, rose in London trading after its first-half earnings surpassed analysts’ estimates, helped by higher performance fees at its GLG Partners unit'. This, in my own view, makes the combination price of (GLG, EMG anf FRM) totally illogical at just 80p. Meaning that Man group share price, even on the value of GLG alone, is being heavily suppressed for whatever reason(s). Hence the frustration of many as well as the optimism of those eyeing a bargain. As ever DYOR and GL to all whatever category of investor.

and me, jackd, I've worked out had anyone had them at 260p, like me, they could have averaged down by now to 113p over the sven periods. (80p in another three times). I wold have had to have some surefire confidence of it happening though.

Hi Graveydavey, jackd, Since last May the price has dipped 7 times from circa 90p to 80p's, (twice to 78p). Incredibly a rise and fall has has happened regularly every 3-4 weeks until today. Some price movements were contrary to AHL's performances.

The AHL presentation today for yesterdays performance shows Estimated Nav increasing to 1.0865, a rise of 0.9% for yesterday Jan 28th and shows -2.3% for the week so far to yesterday yet yesterday was the first day of the week. What a panic they must be in. Confirms what I said the board should get their fingers out or get out, we need people who know how to handle people in business on the board. Which would support my claim that it is a strong buy from this level.

Although Man has roughly followed same path as the general markets today, the delay, (normally produced just after 3pm), in presenting AHL figures is, as normal, appears to be giving more fright to mms and preventing the slight recovery other are experiencing. So often does this happen, however, the computer will spu out regularly, so why the delay. Do they not want this price to recover? In a similar vein, it was recently reported that a non exec of the board had indicated that if AHL wasn't fixed it would be sold. Even after the AHL figures just produced showing a clawback of 0.9% yesterday. good though it is. recent results still show that AHL is clearly not fixed, does that mean GLG will now be contemplating selling Man? How the mighty Man has fallen under the boards stewardship. Why don't they get their finger out or get out (Without disgusting golden handshakes) and let some who know what they are doing be in charge. . In that case it would be a Strong Buy.