RE: Interesting21 Nov 2021 13:21
Until we have a vaccine that is proven beyond all doubt to significantly reduce the spread of this virus to levels that will ultimately lead to its demise there is nothing selfish about not taking a vaccine. Vaxxers and anti vaxxers imo are cut from the same cloth. Both want to take our freedom of choice from us by making us feel bad for not falling in their line. This vaccine protects the person taking it. If you have had it and your that convinced that you can't catch it or pass it on then a) you're deluded which is a worry for society but b) why worry about the person next to you. If you are sensible and still worried despite being vaxxed then wear a decent mask, that will reduce transmission upto 95%, sanitise. Don't just rely on the fact that the person in front of you is jabbed. It means nada, they can just as likely give it to you as anyone else. Protect yourself.
There are 2 restaurants, both deal in similar foods and both very high quality. You want to take your family out for a Christmas meal. One has a policy of vaccine or negative test, the other a policy of negative test only. Which is your preference?
I know where I stand. Why would I want to eat in a full restaurant when there are potentially dozens of people who haven't been tested that could have asymptomatic covid, well given that some people just don't give a toss some may be symptomatic. It's pretty easy to hide a cough for a few seconds until you get through the door. I think I'll go to the negative test restaurant regardless of Vax status. At least I know my family is safer.
Building a robust testing infrastructure is the key to living with this virus and even one day eliminating it. The vaccine we currently have is another tool but on its own it won't stop the spread (proven). Test, test, test. This method of vaccine or negative test is imo bullst and one of the very reasons why this merry go round will just keep going round.
It's the governments message that has disillusioned people to believe that if they are jabbed they can carry on about their lives as normal. Hence the 'if you're jabbed you don't need to have a test' 'if you're jabbed you don't need to isolate if you have come into contact with a positive' or 'if you're jabbed you don't need to have a test on your way back from anywhere in the world', and we wonder why we still have 40k cases per day. By the way, if it's 40k cases per day it's probably a few hundred thousand actually.
In summary, testing, masks and social distancing reduces transmission, not vaccines on their own. The current vaccine may help save your life, no one else's. The decision of whether to take it should be yours and yours alone.