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Hi Wakey, I'd agree that your time frame is reasonable. & I think AM's involvement has been sufficiently covered ? Most good peeps, will perhaps be starting to get 'Stockholm Syndrome', when listening to, one too many 'i can prove that' against a reluctant witness... Lets all chill, maybe sing a wee song '..one potato, two potato...' No ?!

"...Basically in a nutshell. Is ABH still lying to us or has he turned over a new leaf. Not much to ask really is it...." Indeed, not much to ask, apart from the prospect of squandering the available opportunity of the EGM facility, for simply verifying "..Is ABH still lying to us or has he turned over a new leaf...' ? When the exact same conclusion could perhaps be forthcoming, as per recent company reports of suggested time-frames of recent product developments...

I am not saying you are lying bud, perhaps though, just a tad wee bit economical in the truth. & perhaps a bit well too versed in the use of double standards, with one meaning for you and another meaning for those who disagree. Your 'stop attacking me' immediately followed by your bitterly humorous.. '..it must be wine o'clock..' & your multiple '..stop getting over-excited..' immediately followed by your own posts of over ....... You get the drift. Lying no, but truthful, and i'm just not convinced bud.

"I am looking to confirm current state of company and future outlook. What s our strategy, what progress have we made on delivering that strategy, how do we intend to finance that strategy." which again raises the question, who do we have that is suitably qualified to pass such judgement ?

"...Did I or anyone that I am aware of try to move forward with this at any time. No..." in contradiction to your earlier statement, that confirmed there Was a meeting with Alon Moss immediately prior to the arranged meet with Amit ?? Cheeky bud? that would perhaps be someone reneging on his previous...

K2, the two salient points you make are : '...I believe we are where we are due to poor management..... & '...If that was your own company (even though it kind of is), you would have sacked the leader immediately and replaced them...." So spit it out then bud, what do you propose to solve your two issues ?

"....it's more to do with has there been any fraudulent behaviour regarding the �13M raised, if no great, if yes then shareholders can then decide what to do next...." which is a good call bud, IF peeps believe that there Has been fraudulent behaviour, & which is currently ongoing. But, even K2 has conceded, that '..the millions spent, that have been waisted in going down the wrong direction, is part & parcel of a developing business, is a thing of the past..' So, at this specific moment in time, is it a relevant call, whilst the company Appears to be in a further product development stage ? Would it perhaps not be prudent, to Wait until such time, that irrevocable proof of 'fraudulent behaviour' becomes known, rather than wasting resources, chasing at best, a half-baked supposition...

'...EGM.... simply means "I am in favour of the creation of a vehicle that will contain specific resolutions, some of which I will want and will therefore vote for, and some of which I may not want and will therefore vote against."...' Guessing that most peeps are wondering what these 'specific' resolutions may be. Guessing also, that most peeps are just perhaps waiting on wether or not there is any substance in those recently quoted rumours of a 'coming soon' variety. the empathises, again being predominantly on the time frames ?

"....I'd say that the most beneficial reason to call an EGM is to achieve - as much as is possible - reliable clarity for PIs - which is a completely reasonable thing to want....." Is that not kind of a 'half-baked potato supposition' when taking into account : That those Pi's strongly advocating an EGM, can not provide clarity on Exactly what the proposed EGM seeks to resolve ?

So, the most beneficial function in calling an EGM is... '...to appraise the value of whatever IP CTAG claims to have...' And presumably we have access to qualified independent assessors, who can then make judgement calls on what is a good investment & what is not....? Or as Young Hex suggests, to find out, who has been keeping the lights switched on...

'..What I simply don't understand is why everyone is so against having an outside independent source audit the company in the way mentioned by HITS (08:46), this is standard practice in industry and would answer everyone's questions at once...' Gaffy, you refer to the request by HITS, which stipulates that Douglass55 would be Very much in favour of voting in a resolution that seeks : '..That an independent set of financial experts is retained to go over CTAG's accounts in order to determine the financial status of the company, to investigate what CTAG's current strategy is & to appraise the value of whatever IP CTAG claims to have....' Yet, even the foremost proponent for an EGM, suggests that this is futile : '...ABH has pretty much admitted that the company has been forced to make a significant strategy change moving from B2C to B2B which other than the multiple millions burned to date on the B2C angle is one of those things. Industry trends shift and companies have to react. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on that one. So, what it appears we have, is yourself & HITS advocating we squander resources on finding out the nitty gritty of previous R&D costs, whilst K2 has previously acknowledged that '..the multiple millions burned to date... is one of those things...i am giving him the benefit of the doubt..'. Lol, & just for clarity, Douglas55 of the northern 1nv3rn355 variety, Totally agrees with K2 on his summary, 'that the millions burned to date, is one of those things', Which then leaves the important question, what Exactly does an EGM 'bring to the table' ?

That's cool bud, we all get to change opinions as we progress on thru. It does work both ways though, & its not me who is currently trying to bite at Amit's heels. Take care & enjoy what's left of the day. Some foolish lass hopes to start the Caithness Trail, early early tomorrow, so just making sure she's not forgot the suncream & the teabags & the choccie bars &... Apologies, is a wee bit chaotic, but the gist is... what lies in true 'purpose'.... Another time.

'...Third time of asking...' And that puts us on a par, bud..... With the Question then being, what do the shareholders make of all this.... back-peddling ?! lol.

lol, now, was this the coffee meet that allegedly did not take place, but which then saw fewer numbers attending, after it was then found out that K2 et al had arranged to hijack said meeting and serve an alleged notice of intent on Amit... or was it the other 'fluffy' coffee meet with Captain Bligh earnestly looking after his non-existent concerns ?!

Thanks Wakey, indeed it is Serious enough to get concerned when rather 'simple' questions are being back-peddled on !

'...is this perhaps an oblique reference to how the Twitter Group would Like this to proceed?..' & this is considered as too difficult to understand.... from those hoping to take on Amit ?!

'...Re real-world data keep up with the program Kerian... blood pressure monitors & army watches isn't quite where its at....' which then raised the simple question : '...is this perhaps an oblique reference to how the Twitter Group would Like this to proceed?..' After asking this query 3 times now, then indeed i'm all ears...

K2., Doubt 1. "...RE: To EGM or not to EGM21 Mar '18. I can 100% say I had no input into any questions which Tim may or may not have asked...." & now, Thank you, we have clear clarification, that there was a meeting. Doubt 2. You have rather astutely answered that you do not know of an 'army watch' in relation to any pro-EGM purpose, so would you now care to Expand further and perhaps state there are No other high-tech gadgetry being considered... Doubt 3. Peeps will make their own minds up, on who is being truthful in their debates. "....Someone has done a proper job on you it would seem..." & i'm guessing, yet again, that is meant as some sort of personal slant, from one who has the impudence to have earlier shouted '...stop attacking me..' ?! Its way too easy bud, to create uncertainty and distrust for anyone related to an EGM, when this is the quality of their argument. All i do, is ask the questions, which you then back-peddle on, ultimately, leaving acorns of doubts in the readers conclusions.. Irony indeed :)

the salient facts, of the recent musings, so far.. there currently exists : 1. doubts on the truthfulness of those 'it-never-happened-meets', allegedly with Alon Moss immediately prior to arranged coffee meet with Amit.. 2. doubts on the Twitter Group's 'purpose', allegedly to just get Amit to respect the... Ctag SHAG'gers & now allegedly involving some weird & wonderful Army watches + other high-tech gadgetry.. 3. doubts on the veracity (that's 'truthfulness' Hits) of those pertaining to hold the middle-ground of reasoned debate, whilst consistently tarring those with any inclinations of optimism, as '..star-struck...paid shills.. hijacking reasoned debates..' Significant doubts ? & It just has to be doubtful enough to get good peeps thinking. (espressos may indeed help)

Longside, 'smarts' soon turn off bb attention & peeps are then left with pondering on the more salient facts.. the loon fae Belhelvie has again scarperred, as no doubt, there will be a safety issue involved.... Lol, for some of us, then you get to a certain age bud, you are just grateful for still being here. With or without all the noise of bb 'smarts', life's good after that 1st Costa of the day!