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As I said yesterday we neither want, nor need, Trump to be taking SNG001. But if another mention of it in The Guardian gets us a bit more publicity that’s good with me

One thing that is undeniably emerging out of the Trump Covid drama is the focus has turned very much onto Therapeutic drugs and not vaccines.

“Every patient that is admitted into hospital with covid is considered moderate-severe. Mild cases aren't admitted.“

Every patient Except Trump. Yet again, this is my point. They have explicitly stated his symptoms are ‘mild’. Not moderate. Not severe. Yet :

1. He is in hospital - with ‘mild’ symptoms
2. He is receiving Dexamethasone with ‘mild’ symptoms.

Something does not ring true.

Sparkle yes but my point is that Dexamethasone is only prescribed to severely ill patients either receiving Oxygen or on a Ventilator. According to the doctors treating him Trump does not fit into EITHER of those categories. Therefore, either the prescription has now changed and you can use for milder disease (ie.the way we are told Trump is now presenting OR they are NOT giving us the full picture.

The ‘good news’ account given doesn’t somehow fit with the therapeutic treatments given to Trump.. I suppose I could believe the story provided until the bit where they said he has been given Dexamethasone. What? Dexamethasone!

This is what it said on a BBC report on Dexamethasone as recently as June:

“It’s only suitable for people in hospital and receiving Oxygen or mechanical ventilation - the most unwell.
The drug does not work on people with milder symptoms, because suppressing their immune system at this point would not be helpful. “

So why would they be giving Trump this drug if he were in an improving medical condition and likely to be discharged tomorrow? It makes no sense whatsoever. This drug is only given to severely ill Covid patients. And even if Trump insisted on being given it it would be madness to do so surely because it would risk a heightened immune response, the so called cytokine storm.

“ Trumps Doctor now saying he made a mistake and didn't mean to say treatment started 72 hours ago which would have made it Wednesday for a positive test. ”

Oh he would say that wouldn’t he? And yes he DID make a mistake but not the one he’s suggesting he made. He said it was 72 hours ago because it WAS 72 hours ago. I mean if he made a simple basic mistake like forgetting the time or day then, fir the position he’s in, he’s utterly incompetent and should be sacked. But he’s not wrong he inadvertently told the truth and uncovered the White House LIES.

I suspect Trump will have ordered his medical staff to ONLY use American drugs.

He has been given Remdesivir AND Regeneron Monoclonal Antibodies. It’s a risk for those companies now. Will it be beneficial for either of those companies or their treatments if he dies? No. If he recovers neither will be able to claim conclusively it was their drug.

Regeneron monoclonal antibodies is still strictly an experimental drug.

It has ZERO I repeat ZERO clinical data to support it. SNG001 has clinical data - nearly 300 patients.

Personally I hope they don’t attempt using SNG001 now because there is too much risk on one person. He has already been given two different therapeutic drugs so if and when he gets better no one will know what helped make him better.

We are best out of this acutely political drama.

Parsley2

https://youtu.be/7syJJrsmrts

Parsley2

https://youtu.be/7syJJrsmrts

Sounds like Arthur Vallejo holds SNG stock!

Wise man....

Skeletor- why do you think governments/regulatory authorities are going to wait as long as next February? It seems to me that whilst some may be over hopeful of news next week you have gone to the other extreme. Winter and thus the peak season for Viral infections will be almost over come next February. No, that would simply be too late. You need to take decisions in good time to prepare for the coming virus season (flu etc) which generally starts In November. So I personally don’t ‘expect’ news next week but I do before the end of October. That is not an unreasonable assumption.

Also you state ‘Everyone got excited by Clinigen this week’. Well no they didn’t actually did they. Indeed the market demonstrably showed disappointment with the announcement! As did a number of posters on this board. A few sold their shares! All because they didn’t deliver the Big Bang announcement. Many investors realised Clinigen wasn’t the Big Bang. That’s the point!

So if you really want to be seen as the logical reasoned poster you’ll need to show a logical reasoned overall analysis. It’s a shame because there were some potentially good points in there such as why take on a MAP if emergency use authorisation were imminent? I get that.

FWIW I agree with you that it’s not likely we will get more news next week but then again we might. You don’t know and neither do I. There are items we are due news on such as full data set from hospital trial + peer review. Clarification on extension of trial to pivotal. MAPs outside of EU. UK government position, literally any of these things and more could drop at anytime. I think you are banking your scepticism on the fact that there was quite a big news gap after 20th July. But I think things have moved on apace since then.

mike29 - no NCYT will not be able to afford SNG! When we are taken out it will be by a far bigger player and certainly not a diagnostics company like NCYT. I don’t know who came up with that idea, ridiculous.

There was Speculation how the market would respond to this mornings RNS.

A few early errrr sceptics shall we say suggested it says a fundraising is coming. We KNOW funds will need to be raised at some point in the coming months because the company has said so. Hardly news is it!

But the market has def responded positively. This suggests the appointment is for more than just assisting a possible fundraise. Incidentally I believe that if the company does elect to go down the equity raise avenue we will see some very big influential institutions want to take stakes. I would not be surprised if there was a queue of them such is the magnitude of the opportunity here.

Re ChinaTrial - And just to add it was used on medical workers .....

I think this is the trial in China that people are referring to. Interferon Alpha was used as opposed to our Beta and the application was by nasal drops so a completely different delivery method and for prophylactic (Preventative) use.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.11.20061473v2

Woodstock, don’t mind a cash raise at all provided they do it at a higher SP. Certainly well over £2

I think most weak holders have now been shaken out. However, the rather exaggerated SP movement of the past couple of days has, of course, brought the day traders flocking in attracted by the big fall and gyrations. So that’s why we’re seeing the price come off this afternoon as they rake their 10/15% off the table. Tiresome but inevitable.

Also worth pointing out from the Twitter conversation that it looks as though it is a ‘nominative’ ATU at this stage rather than a cohort. Though that may well change of course as things develop. We hope it will.