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The whole point of bitcoin is that it is not regulated,if it was bitcoin would not be worth anything like it's current value. What part of it is rigged/manipulated don't you get.

Sorry but old news. Venezuela has suffered massively by the inflation of the us dollar for a long time.So yes if want to support Venezuela you could buy Bitcoin, or just donate to a Venezuelan charity. It goes back to the Vietnam war, printing us dollars etc. Very complex, so I would forget that one if I were you.

sidi Bitcoin is not regulated. A government regulated cryto currency is completely different. We are talking at cross purposes, Bitcoin are worthless, A government backed cryto(block chain) currency is completely different.

sidi. The reason boats float is because the tons of metal are full of air, which makes them overall lighter that water. Rockets reach the moon because of very powerful rocket engines that can take the rocket out of the Earths gravity. I can explain all your examples. I can also explain why bitcoin will fail, if I haven't done so already. You say sooner or later we have to accept these new forms of currency, Of course we don't. Not if they are just a ponzi scheme. Don't just accept things because they new. Come on, give us a break?

Amigo sidi. Now you really are worrying me. Just because its new doesn't mean it will succeed. Bitcoin are worthless. You are being conned.

Umeed, You hit the nail on the head when you compare fiat currency to bitcoin. Both have no intrinsic value, ever sense fiat currency stopped being backed by gold. The difference is fiat is backed by governments. Bitcoin is driven not just by greed, but by an anti government/ banks etc attitude, which is unfortunately quite common with some young people. Fortunately still a minority, but its very insidious, & very dangerous. But governments & banks, which are far from perfect, but far less corrupt than Bitcoin, will just make it illegal if it goes too far, & then there will be a lot of big losers. The reason they are standing back is mainly because they don't want to alienate the young even more. If you want to try to understand the cult mentality of bitcoin investors, just go on to cryptocompare, but if you try to post anything neg, you will be shot down in flames. At least with the tulip bulb mania, it become clear that you cant get rich owning tulips.

mole. Bitcoin is unregulated. If cryto currency (block chain) replaces fiat currency it won't be bitcoin, it will be replaced by a regulated crypto currency owned by banks. When/if that happens bitcoin will be worthless. Bitcoin at a million pound?, you live in a fantasy world. For bitcoin to be worth £1million, someone has pay that price, & they are only going to do that if they can sell it at a higher price, so the price will have to just keep rising, meaning the whales creaming off there profits. If at some point the price stabilises then there is no point in holding anymore, so the price is likely to just collapse.

crypto coins are only worth what a bigger fool will pay for them. (Bigger fool theory) The crazy thing with bitcoin is those who own them, but never sell. (The so called hodlers the reason the price has been so high), is because there a lot of hodlers (holders) who think they have made a fortune, but until they sell at a profit they are actually losing. It is a mathematical fact that at any one time, more money has paid into bitcoin, that has been taken out, which means most will lose money. The false idea is that you only lose money if you sell bitcoin, but the truth is the opposite. Bitcoin holders will try to suck more investors in to keep the price rising. There are those called whales (manipulators)who hold large amounts of bitcoin & together they drive the price up sucking in noobies who with f.o.m.o. (fear of missing out) buy. Then the whales sell in concert before the rest can sell in panic. Bit coin are basically worthless, if cryto currency (block chain) were to replace fiat currency(dollar, pound etc, it would have to be regulated by banks, governments etc.

If fleccy is saying that share prices are driven too much by graphs & algorythms, then I agree. As for bitcoin,well we all know they are worthless, but the price is heavily manipulated, so very risky to short, but in the long run you could make a killing by shorting them I think. I saw a headline in the daily mail finance section today saying Amigo investors lose a fortune, don't worry it wasn't about us vod Amigo's, well not yet anyway?

sidi. & robleo. Yeh, Sorry, No rules. I was only joking. Just be happy! I have probably put Gary right off? You vill be happy, If not, you vill be shot. Good luck to the 3.5 Amigos?

robleo. Why is it men go grey with worry, but women just go red/pink/blue/ or green? Come on vod, now the curse has gone. We can beat girly premium bonds?? Amigos rule,O.K.

robleo. I was just thinking how cheesed off I am with the weather, but how lucky I am my house doesn't leak, so all sympathy to you. Roll on summer.

OK, so now we are back to 4 Amigos. The rules are, ( Only joking of course), but if there was, A , If you lose, don't moan. B. Have a sense of humour (ok, not as bad as mine). C. Don't be a know it all(just ask me 1st) Joking of course. D if you want advice, ask the mole-man. Sorry mole, only joking, (true though). & of course E. We all want C.S.D.I. back, but only as a non investor?! Just a commentator. We all miss you already!! Good luck Amigos.

Gary. You just need 3 votes, & you have got mine, so up to the other 2 Amigo's. Please don't go selling vod to pay down deb't just yet though?

Goodbye Amigo. Sorry to see you go. I don't think my wife really want's to know, which is probably just as well. She has her own money to spend. ---- You'r paying down debt eh, perhaps vod could could learn from you? Good luck Amigo, 1 down, still 3 Amigos go, I hope? Hope you come back, but then again, perhaps wise not to?

All I see out the window is falling water. No suicidal vod investors yet, 1930 style. Good day for vod, & my grass may be green, but it needs cutting, & it's far to wet for that, or sunbathing on it. Moan, Moan, Moan, As Mikey used to say. Only Joking Mikey. Bring me sunshine, as Eric & Ernie used to say. Should have bought B.T. ( The grass is always greener). Joking of course. Stick with vod?!

Last 5 years vod underperformed by 5%.per year. So could that mean it is undervalued by5% per year? That is the question. Should a long term holder of vod bail out now,or hold, or perhaps buy. Who knows, but selling in this vod bear market, I think is not wise! No way I am selling, but do I buy more? Watch this space?

vod sp on the nas =129.64. I think me & c.s.d.i. may have missed the bottom to top up? Back to 1.40 soon I think. Good luck Amigo's. SIDI. don't panic!! Robleo. The divi is safe?? As for me. He who dares ,wins Dave?

Itsa. I suspect your valuation statement is based on the original price you paid for your vod shares, not the price of the verizon shares you were awarded. There was a roughly 1for 2 vod share as well to take in to account. O.K. so we all like to think we are doing better than we really are, but just don't tell the tax man! Or me!!!!

Itsa.I think you are missing my point. Where do you get 1516 from, please explain? Or don't you know?