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I would imagine Christian is awaiting positive news on the peace plan before hosting a webinar otherwise its rather pointless having one .

That makes sense to me.

It will be interesting to hear the US reaction to Zelensky's Counter Plan- bearing in mind, Zelensky never even bothered to read the US proposal.

Trump should threaten to walk now and leave Z and his European Allies to their own devices with no military arms sales.

There will never be peace as long as the Europeans keep poking their unwanted noses in, they will break up every offer presented and thats why they were left out of the original US Plan.

Its time for the US to say to Z, this is the deal, do you want it or not, no more messing around going round in circles. Accept by a deadline or you can resolve it yourself on the battlefield 'without' US Military support.

Trump will not like being played by Zelensky, who has treated the US peace proposal with contempt & total disregard by not even looking at it and then has the audacity to present his own Counter Plan, which I expect Trump will not read and the Russians will reject immediately.

E101...Z was just stringing the US along pretending to be intetested in their peace plan -(even though he never actually bothered to even look at it )so as to appease Trump , when all the time he was concocting his own Counter Plan with the Europeans- knowing full well that Russia would never accept any plan drawn up by Europe & Ukraine.

Zs playing a game, feigning intetest in peace to keep contact with and appease the US to keep them on his side , whilst working on his own deluded Fantasist plans with Europe that put a spanner in the works of the US proposed peace plan.

It all depends how annoyed DT is when he finds out the details of the Counter Plan that was concoucted with the Europeans whilst Zelenskies envoys were busy negotiating with Trumps top envoys on the US plan.

I imagine Trump will be furious with this double dealing by Z, who's goal is to undermine the US peace plan and present his fantasy non starter plan.

Don't be surprised is DT walks after this act of total disregard for all his efforts to achieve peace in Ukraine.

Trump should say Great when he receives the European Counter Peace Plan....You do what you want with it, I'm done, yr on yr own now & there will be No further US Military Arms.

The European Plan Completely undermines the US Plan and Europe knows Russia will never entertain any European Plan, so the Europeans are simply throwing spanners in the works to stop the Peace Process.

I'm sure Trump will be most offended when Z presents the European Counter Plan tomorrow.

Zelensky has just stated that "The European & Ukrainian Peace Plan will be ready tomorrow and sent to the US " ( Obviously another stalling tactic and complete waste of everyone's time as no one is interested in what these two insignificant parties have to say) .

Zelensky also said "Trump sees his way of ending the war and his view differs from mine"

He also said...."No territorial exchanges for security guarantees are on the table" !

"Ukraine is counting on a reparations loan".

This kind of talk from Zelensky is 2022 talk and light years from peace.

Trump will leave the party shortly unless Z does a 360 !

Its clear Zelensky is just stringing Trump along and he has no actual interest or desire for peace.

He just wants to make if look like Ukraine is well supported by the US & Europe and maintain the Fantasy hope with his irrelevant European Buddies that Russia goes bankrupt and/or suddenly packs up and leaves the newly acquired Russian regions !

As Trump says, We know the Russian terms, same as back in Feb but Z doesnt want this peace deal but wants to pretend he's thankful & keen to negotiate - when in reality he doesnt even bother looking at any US peace proposals so I think Trump has sussed him out now and may leave the little man to his own devices soon if he continues to swing the US along without showing any real desire to accept the peace terms presented, which, unjust & unfair as they are, are the best terms available and will only ever get worse as Ukrainian soldiers are retreating along almost the entire front & sustaining heavy casualties they can ill afford - having lost around 20% of their country with less than zero chance of getting it back.

Party Pooper...Zelensky will always have to surrender on unfavourable terms just the longer he leaves it, the more unfavourable the terms get.

He's living in a fantasy world if he thinks Ukraine is going to get fair & just terms of surrender when they have lost 20% of their country and are retreating along almost the entire front & have no new troops to deploy.

Zelensky is continually stating that he wants peace yet he continually refuses every peace deal put to him.

Sure the deals aren't good but there is No good deal for Ukraine & never will be so he's just prolonging the war hoping for a miracle but the reality is he's losing more of his country every day and he's running out of fresh troops to replace the heavy casualties.

Its Astonishing to hear Zelensky has not even looked at The US Peace Plan.....I find this unbelievable but Trump says that Zelensky has not looked at it which is utterly inconceivable and will not help his cause with the US !

I just cannot see why he wouldn't look at the peace plan if he desperately wants peace ?

Must be a lot going on behind the scenes, hopefully he's right.

I, for once, agree with Espen, that it would not be good for Eua if Trump walked and it would be an absolute disaster for Ukraine and the end of the country as it would then be incorporated into the Russian federation.

So no need for negotiations if Trump walks, its simply the end of Ukraine.

Too many theories flying around here now , lets stick with the facts, the peace process is ongoing and making progress.

The Trump Threat by DTs Son is Intentional and is intended to indirectly tell Zelensky to make a deal before he pulls out and you lose your entire country.

Trump's clearly had enough of the back & forth with Zelensky & the Europeans constantly blocking the path to peace.

There are No Good Outcomes for Ukraine and Trump knows this so its a case of do you want to make a deal or good luck and we'll leave you to it- which would spell the end of Ukraine.

If Trump Walks, That's the End of Ukraine, Peace Talks Stop, Military Aid Stops & All of Ukraine becomes incorporated into Russia.

Zelensky knowx this & Russia know this and thats why Putin is giving no concessions.

Well, we can either listen to US Special Envoy Kellog, who says "we are really close to a peace deal and at the last 10metres" or we can listen to the Anonymous Nobody TDT, who tells us that peace is not coming anytime soon. Take yr Pick 🤔

Its interesting to see posters like TDT/Spikey etc who absolutely hate anything that might be positive for Eua, they are indeed the most twisted and negative Trolls and go into a negative tail spin anytime something potentially positive is mentioned.

The Jerusalem Post.

Says the next steps for talks with the United States about post war Ukraine have been agreed.

Kellog says we are in the last 10meters and the remaining two points that require resolving are territory & the Nuclear Plant.

Looks like the back & forth negotiations are in the final phase and peace is near.

Zelensky said his team are ready for the next step with the US.

Fingers Crossed Peace Will be Coming Soon🤞

Gentlemen, I think the in-house bickering about how well/badly Russia / Ukraine are doing should stop and the focus be on peace as thats what's coming and with it higher shareprices for Western Companies operating in Russia.

Perhaps posters could make a guess @ the sp after peace. I expect double figures, so will go with 12p. Not a bad return 💰 from the current 4p.

Good Progress has been made according to sources and the fact negotiations in Miami are going into a 3rd day clearly shows that boxes are being ticked and progress is being made.

Then the ball will be put back into Putin's court and this is how negotiations to end a war are conducted when there is no surrender from one side nor a decisive war winning victory for the other.

People need to understand that this process is not a one meeting/make a deal ....its a series of negotiations by both parties through an intermediary (US) on a series of terms and concessions until both parties agree on the terms presented.

It seems like the process is well underway and that after a little more back & forth peace can be achieved.

We know all wars end and it seems this one has pretty much ran its course and both sides now want peace for their own different reasons.

Let's hope we get peace in the next few weeks !