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Fleccy - Yes that’s right I think. A bit of research on my part and it’s refractive index (e.g. with germanium dioxide (GeO2) or aluminium oxide (Al2O3)) or to lower it (e.g. with fluorine or boron trioxide (B2O3)). My understanding is this doping extends the distance by extending the time / distance it would take for light within a fibre to be out of sync and therefore reduce attenuation. Obviously layman’s understanding but there it is

@ Fleccy. I’m referring to light cancelling itself out over distance due to refraction through different medium. In effect the same signal passing through different layers of glass and air would cause a cancellation over distance. Pretty sure the article I tried to understand was converting light to electricity on a customer site, to replace power from the exchange / cabinet. It’s a long time ago, but if memory serves me right it was Warwick university that discovered doping the glass in different strengths of (gallium) I think would keep the refracted light in sync for longer, removing the need to regenerate or repeat the signal, depending on terminology / understanding. Either way very interesting. I’ve also read the article on line about bt / Huawei running lots of terabytes in trials. Assumption from me would be this would need to be the very latest in fibre deployment too. I know someone at work talking about getting a B.B. dish supplied by EE to replace his fixed line which is slow, will be interesting to find out how that goes.

@simonw00d - I’m reliably informed fibre will reuse ducting whilst old copper is still in use. This I imagine means trying to recover the old copper could’ve more trouble than it’s worth. I used to work with fibre (& wave guides) & although I’m sure much improved, it wasn’t trouble free by any measure. Keeping up to date in technology out of interest I see repeaters are not required any longer (doping the glass) & then the ability to provide power ??? I stopped trying to understand it at that point. Either way BT is caught in a tricky place ATM with fibre. They have to be able to make money, but also can’t get left behind by the start ups. I’d say this is one of5 conundrums that need resolving before the share price will increase to something more recognisable. I too think DT will be taking along hard look at BT, along with one or two others

@simonsw00d. Oh okay so G.fast is very dependent on a short distance from cabinet to home. So it won’t increase speed over a longer distance say take a rubbish speed of 1mb per second to say 10mb p/s.

Hi kitesurfa. Okay thanks, so G.Fast rollout is not going to solve one of BT’s issues. Understand the regulation argument, I was pondering the technical fix. That’s a shame, I got my hopes up.

I have a question for the BT experts on here. I know G. Fast vastly increases existing good B.B. connections up to perhaps 300 / 400 mbts. I’m a fan of this technology because it looks cheaper than large scale fibre rollouts. Might even satisfy the demand for bandwidth over the next decade or so. My question is, will G. Fast help improve areas where B.B. connections are slower because of the rural nature and length of copper. I’m not suggesting these areas will get super fast speeds, but will it give these areas a useable speed? & if it will why wouldn’t BT prioritise these areas to control the immediate Cristisism ? Is this a rural B.B. solution?

Fleccy I’ve already said I’m in the same similar boat as you & therefore following similar strategy. I don’t think BT is a lost cause & ive never said that. I think BT bad news is a little over done. How ever some of the news is bad, I do include 5G developments in this, because of the potential turmoil this will cause (market disruption). I hope for s bt recovery, but I am starting to think it is a possibility it won’t depending on I would say the next year or so. My average SP is higher than yours, all the while I think these shares can recover I won’t sell, the loss would be too big. If there’s no good news this time next year I will consider this ootion carefully. My logic is the biggest part of my loss should be over now, therefore further loss should just be percentages there of. RPI, change in life span, a compromise with OFCOM & G.Fast proving itself, I think could get this SP closer to my avg price. If I had my time again, I would have sold. Like you I don’t like the gloating going on here it’s a bit ridiculous and unnecessary.

Fleccy in terms of BT and share strategy for one reason or another I find myself in the same / similar boat to you. But I’m not writing events off, instead I see moodys move as further evidence BT’s strategy is in trouble. Degrees of which differ depending on who you choose to read or believe. If nothing else debt will become more expensive by their down grade and this news will continue to fuel the bear market you describe. This is not good news & im not writing it off .

Apart from anything else I obviously said “a little bit worse” Fleccy don’t you think it’s time for you to self check yourself when the only way you can make sense of the world you invest in, is by calling it a conspiracy? Rather tan reality. If it’s not OFCOM, It’s the BOD, if it’s not the BOD it’s Deutsche Com & now we add Credit Rating companies. 10,000,000,000 shares times £0.15 dividend clearly shows dividend payments must be a strain on BT’s accounts when looking at reduced income, reduced value, overall dept, pension liabilities and finally an expectation of future investment. I’m sorry fleccy worlds not flat and climate warming is up on us (notice the no mention of idiot Brexit) in my response.

Moodys cuts BT’s credit rating. This goes from bad to a little bit worse. Who ever thinks the dividend is well covered I would invite them to redo their sums.

Ive seen conspiracy theories about the BT share price elsewhere. Of course it is possible to influence a share price if you have enough shares and trade them cleverly http://www.capacitymedia.com/Article/3790075/Home/Deutsche-Telekom-CEO-says-BT-attractive-a-year-before-embargo-on-bid-expires