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Relax, OSD, relax.. Now that your problem has been explained to me I will make allowances.for it. As the late great Franky Howard used to remind us all in Up Pompiei, it is wrong to mock the afflicted.

When I you going to provide the 'manageable plan' you promised?

Ah. thanks, User.

I now. understand the point OSG was trying to make. i made the mistake of reading what he said literally, without allowance for the rather approximate way he thinks and expresses himself.

His inability to formulate simple thoughts and to express them clearly is obviously very frustrating for him. Two shots at it and he still couldn't get it right. By his third post his knickers were in a right old twist !

OSD, you really are well up yourself.

I am pretty new to this board and have not seen any pst of yours older than a few weeks.

You are obviously very proud of your posts OSD, but surely you cannot think I am going to waste my time trawling back over your 3000 of them?

As to my greenhouse, I don't appreciate veiled threats to throw stones at it. Is that a pastime you picked up at your Greek taverna? You should be more discriminating in the company you keep, or you will get yourself into trouble.

That's kind, OSD.

I have quite a bit of distance to make up in the posting stakes, I fear, both in absolute terms and per week.

Your posts also attract attention more attention than mine . Not to mention speculation on the ADVFN board about your posting garb. Very individual, and comfortable enough in summer, but a bit chilly in winter I should have thought. I am afraid it is also a deterrent to allowing you the use of my greenhouse. I don't wish to be ungenerous, but I do have to have regard to the sensibilities of my neighbours.

OSD you urge others not to engage in personal sniping (a worthy suggestion), but that seems to be a 'do as I say, not as I do' post.

I see that you have clocked up over 3000 posts here and succeeded in getting up a lot of noses. You have made yourself the subject of adverse comment on other boards too, such as the ADVFN QBT board (again) where , so far as I am aware, you do not even post!

I am sure we can all make up our own minds as to the characters and objectives of other posters, without any commentary from you.

How about a self-denying ordinance - limit yourself to 3 posts a week and stay on topic, ie QBT?

Any investment takes time and trouble to investigate and monitor (or should). There is also the consideration of dealing charges. A sub £1k holding is not time or cost effective for anyone, except perhaps for someone starting out to build a portfolio. Such a person would be wise to start with 'set and forget' plain vanilla ITs. even then, he should b looking to build any holding to at least £5/10K (see above) not investing in a multiplicity of inconsequential holdings. That is just basic investing common sense.

Taking a punt is different. Its a bit of fun, nothing to do with investment. The Gee Gees, the lottery, premium bonds. A bit of fun with no thought or time commitment.You can pick your lottery numbers with a pin. finding a below the radar AIM gem takes Knowledge, research and time. Picking AIM stocks with a pin, or on the basis of BBhype and FOMO is a sure way to lose your stake. Remember, even if you got into ARB at 3p you would be in the red now, not sitting on a big banked gain, unless you had monitored it and made an informed decision as to when to sell.

Thats all I am saying.

Scotwins, are you serious that you only hold about 100K shares here?

Why bother with such a tiny holding? Surely if an investment (any investment) does not justify putting in £10K, £5K as a bare minimum, it isn't worth bothering with?

And if you can't afford at least £5K per holding, frankly you should not be investing at the speculative end of the AIM market. If a bit of a flutter is all you are after, try premium bonds or the lottery.

Scotwins, if I were to post 'QBT will rise on the announcement of a deal', that would be unverifiable even though very likely true, would it not?

On your analysis, there would be very few posts, and those few would all be pretty anodyne.

Most of us can recognise an expression of opinion, a statement of a belief, a suspicion, or a hypothesis whether or not the words 'in my opinion' or 'i think that' preface it. I am pretty sure LSE can too.

You are getting over excited, IMO (for you I must include 'IMO' mustn't I?). Take few days off from posting. Take a few days off from looking at the QBT SP chart. A watched pot and all that. You will feel. uch better for the break, and QBT will manage somehow during your absence.

He bowls to the left, he bowls to the right ...

Contradictory. Not sure what point you are trying to make OSD. I expect it would be clear to the Barmy Army. To the rest of us you jjust seem a bit AC DC.

Thank you OSD

And what about a response from you mickeydj? Or is this a case where silence speaks lowder than words?

Mickerdj, how about posting a couple of your enquiries made to the company and the company's responses?

Evidence trumps mere assertion every day of the week.

Likewise OSD. It would be very istructive to see what questions the company would not even acknowledg had been askede, let alone answer.

Asterix, shareholders and potential shareholders don't complain about 'one man getting rich' if that man makes them rich too. The labourer is worthy of his hire. the problem is when the shareholders subscribe huge sums in capital which the one man pays away to himself in eye-watering consultancy fees and 'performance' bonuses without (or to be really charitable and optimistic) before achieving anything of tangible value to the shareholders. Where there is no alignment of interest or reqard between the CEO and the shareholders, that is a red flag.

Stockopaedia describes QBT as a 'sucker stock'.

That may be unfair.

It seems to give a hours of harmless entertainment to its PI shareholders here, at very little cost. Buy 100 shares, and you get change from a quid. And if you push the boat out and buy 1m you can bandy that number about in the pub and pretend to be a big player on the stock market for the price of a clapped out second hand car 'Yeah, but you want a decent stake. I've got a million shares in a tech company. They are going to 100 bag. that's nailed on. I'm minted'.

I too am sceptical about the litigation recovery. It is subject to a further appeal.

I also wonder about Gardin's 10% cut. QBT is funding the lawyers. Why should its CEO take a cut? He is not a lawyer, so I do not see that he can contribute anything beyond what any CEO necessarily contributes to litigation in which the company of which he is a director is involved. It potentially also raises a conflict of interest. Gardin gets a cut of any winnings but contributes nothing to the costs. For him it is 'heads I win, tails I do not lose'. He has a personal interest in QBT continuing the fight, without regard to what the cost of tat fight to QBT may be, and however small the prospects of success may be.

Dracula, many years ago I got my fingers burned with a couple of start up and junior minerals miners. One failed -fair enough. What really taught me a lesson was the other, which was a commercial success, but nearly all the winnings ended up in pockets of everyone but the ordinary shareholders. Too late I heard Rick Rule, perhaps the greatest of the physivcal mining maestros say 'look at the company structure even before you look at the quality of he asset'.

I do that now, and some corporate structures make your hair curl. The industry insiders make a LOT of money, even out of limited mining successes, and at least break even on the failures. Not so the innocent PI ordinary shareholders. A whole web of secured and convertible loans, warrants, placements of shares at a discount to raise capital, al of which PIs have no access to and generally never bother to find out exist.. But even in the wild west of start up and junior physical miners I have never seen one here the CEO of the company contracted out the development of the mine to his own separate company which provided his services as mine developer to the company of which he is CEO ,for consultancy fees and bonuses negotiated between himself acting for his consultancy company and himself acting as CEO of the employer company!! Are any questions asked at the AGM following te payment of 'performance' bonus when projected milestones are missed? Nah. The PIs never question anything.

Institutional investors and sector heavyweights are not loading up on QBT shares. Even more tellingly, neither is Gardin. His last recorded transaction was years ago, a SALE of 2,5m QBT shares.

Yes. Why is the R&D contracted out [by Gardin !!} to Gardin, rather than being done 'in house' by Gardin as an employee of QBT?

If the R&D is commercialised, does Gardin collect the lion's share of the revenue under his consultancy arrangement?

I have done some research, but I can't get to the bottom of it. It does seem though that Gardin gets paid win lose or draw. Even a big performance bonus for the year QBT failed to achieve its revenue by y/e 2024 projection.

The BBs seem to go on for ever with speculation about imminent deals and guesses about whether the theory works commercially (and even more about shorting and SP manipulation), but virtually nothing until last weekend on the ADVFN BB about how much of the winnings the shareholders would see even if the theory does come good.

Thanks for the heads up KK.

I am not invested here, but have started looking into it as there has been buzz that it may finally be coming good.

I must say it would take a bit of a leap of faith to buy!

Long history of 'one final push and we are there' hype from Gardin, none of which has come to anything.

But if it does come good there should be a buck or two in it for shareholders.

There was some interesting stuff on the ADVFN BB over the weekend ,on Gardin's position as CEO causing QBT to pay him to pay him (through his company) as a consultant to run the QBT R&D. It is the only critique of the QBT management and governance set up I have seen so far. It all sounds a bit of a closed loop, with Gardin collecting all around the circle. He benefits so long as the R&D continues, whether it produces anything commercially viable or not, and QBT seem to exist mainly to raise capital to pay his consultancy fees and is of course managed by Gardin.

That was why I was interested in the new director, and whether he had the background to assess Gardin's performance and the reasonableness of his consultancy fees. Unfortunately it sounds as though he could be just a Gardin puppet.. There seems to be no objective assessment by QBT of Gardin's R&D work or what he is causing QBT to pay him for it. Also, the ADVFN posts express concern that the set up may be standing in the way of partnerships with financial and technological heavyweights in the sector., because Gardin's interest lies in hanging on to the R&D work himself.

Probably makes sense to stay on the sidelines, and invest only when [if] there is a commercial deal. That way you miss out on initial profit on an announcement. but avoid having money tied up for years in something which never comes good.

I thought this year's AGM was more impressive than past AGMs have been.

This year FG made no over-optimistic predictions, and no exaggerated claims for QBT's R&D. In fact, he said nothing in any way misleading at all.

Has anyone ever heard of the new director who has been appointed?

That sounds a plausible analysis, Zodiac.

My understanding is that Gardin tends to be over-optimistic and that last year he predicted revenue by year end, continuing to assert that QBT was on track to achieve that, but the year end came and went with no revenue and no explanation.

This time he was more autious and said that it is 'early days' for comercial deals, so this price rise may be built on nothing but PI speculation about a deal announcement and will fade away if nothing materialises soon.

Really, the company ought to put out a statement saying that they know of no basis for the doubling of the share price if there is nothing imminent, but his is AIM and Gardin and QBT so probably it won't.