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You could put a vertical turbine, but you'd still need a battery as a buffer, doesn't one of our partners deal with multisource inputs? Imagine car parks with shades made of solar panels feeding a battery that is also fed by fc, so you can park in the shade, and charge whatever the weather, that acreage then produces something.

Southern, indeed it allows for charging during low rates.

Doc 7, he's brought up some other points this time though, still doesn't recognise that between now and the end game solutions are needed. Just that in the end game we may not be needed, in 20 years time, by which point we'll have grid scale generation, in fact the old units could be repurposed, but 20 years is a long time.

At least he's stopped talking about people being killed by h2, or that there are enclosed spaces that no one goes into.

An indication of how many more charging points are needed, estimate is for a factor of 10 increase is needed, that coupled with a constrained grid is a perfect storm.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/analysis-who-will-charge-our-electric-vehicles

Yachtmaster, it may well be spent, I'll give him that, but it'll take decades, long enough for there to need to be an interim solution.

Bmac, making things up again I see:

From ITM's board, they have no need to discuss grid issues but here you are:
"
Hi all, new to the board but have been reading since finding out about this share about 2 weeks ago.

I am yet to buy in yet as still doing my research but just wanted to add to what [redacted] is saying about the infrastructure in the electrical distribution network.

I work for the south west DNO and down here we have been told that there isn't any capacity for any major supplys etc to large scale building sites with a lot of property's to be connected. We are able to connect individual new customers but anything substantial won't be allowed ( I wouldn't be surprised to see people with deep pockets get approval though).

We have no capacity out of slot of our primary substations and a fair bit of the 132kv network will need upgrading also to allow for extra capacity but nobody is willing to pay for all of this at the moment!

What I am trying to convey here is that in its current state, as anybody who has any understanding in this stuff will know, is that the electricity supply network in its current state is already redundant just for new house connections let alone large scale charging stations or charge points at everybody's houses. This to me puts Tesla and the whole ev industry down the pan as it's just not viable without huge upgrades and investment.

Due to this I think my money will be better off in tech such as H2 here and hope to join you all in investing a bit of my money in ITM Power.

Good luck all"

And

"Hi [redacted]. Welcome aboard. I just retired from a dno after 40 plus years. Same here, anyone applying for more than 100kva sends ripples of fear through everyone. :-)"

100KVA is nothing in EV charging terms. Please provide proof that they are wrong Bmac, whilst the grid is mandated to provide power, there are physical limitations that are being hit.

we're all monkeys underneath.

Oh jaknife, that's a blast from the past.

BMAC Re: your next decade or two.

Precisely, we need it in the next year or two.

Coldfishpie re your... Bmac...your trying your hardest son but your getting smashed!

I don't think you're making that up. God loves a trier, would he love Bmac too?

BMac re: your... The cost of the electricity is about 2.5 times the cost of electricity direct from the grid. (well I told you that it wouldn’t be competitive with the grid, didn’t I. No listeners though, too much back slapping instead)

I think that is just total guesswork on your part Bmac. I posted this earlier today.

The cost from the grid is almost irrelevant if the grid cannot provide it, and in more than a few areas the grid is so limited that a 100Kw is a concern, this is from people who work for the distribution networks and are aware of the requests for new connections and what they can and cannot cope with without increasing losses. So it might be a slightly more expensive feed to charge the cars that we MUST have, or no feed.

Re your.... 2. The unit yesterday was running on compressed pure hydrogen.

I think that is just total guesswork on your part Bmac.

99.9% pure is being quoted, which may sound really quite pure, but the alternative is 99.999% pure, and the marketing materials explicitly states H2 or Ammonia.

I'll say it again, for those that weren't listening, the grid is in many places maxed out, an ex dno employee said over on ITM that anything over 100kva is (paraphrasing) concerning and needs careful consideration. 100kva is 2.5 40kw chargers which is tiny. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that in the decade before the grid is upgraded there is a need for local sources and cost is less of a concern if you need to electrify, and we do need to electrify.

Bellers, is that really as tight as things are?

https://theenergyst.com/hydrogen-guel-cell-rapid-electric-vehicle-charger/

They probably can't stop them publishing the video, should they have stopped them taking it? No idea, having seen it, probably yes.

Arvin, it reads like he's using that as a playbook.

For those in doubt about grid capacity issues have a look at Gunner's post on ITM.
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.asp?ShareTicker=ITM&share=Itm-Power&thread=192DE54A-6ADD-4C58-B572-A0E2F1452741 The Grid is fundamentally full utilised in large areas, alternatives to provide power on site for large loads is needed.
Apologies for cross posting to ITM recently, not a recommendation, but they are working in the same space but in a different part of the supply chain, and some of the observations are relevant here.

Seaangler, I know you are joking, but with no gearing, there is no neutral. Just friction losses from bearings.

Bellers, how many charging points?

It looks a bit cold in there :)