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Re Off -Grid, it might just be 'supporting the grid', which makes the market a lot wider. Imagine someone like Tesco's, they are planning to put chargers in their carpark's, lets be sensible and say that they are only 10KW, so whilst shopping you'll probably top up a bit more than the mileage to get there, that's fine as a consumer your cost to get to the shop is now zero.

However, lets suggest that there are 20 chargers, any fewer than that is getting to the point of being pointless, that's 0.2MW extra into the site, peak time will be middle of the day, the same peak time when in the summer the fridges and freezers are pulling the most juice. That extra 0.2MW could easily be more than their connection can take, but they have to keep the chillers on, and they can't have the chargers being intermittent. An Ammonia based charger is perfect for that scenario. If Morrisons start offering 20KW or 50KW charging, they'll have to follow, at which point their connection definitely won't cope. They are used to handling explosive fuels, it's not a new risk.

As to projections, no one really knows, but the speed to deploy these solution will be a lot faster than upgrading the grid or peak power production. You use the dips in demand to produce the ammonia and you peak lop with devices like this taking the extra load. No more generating capacity is needed, or a lot less is needed, the engineering trade mags have been talking about the smart grid and the possibility of power shortages for at least 2 decades, and practically nothing has happened on a base capacity front, we're eventually going to have a nuclear station at a ridiculous cost, but that'll barely scratch the surface of a full load demand situation for potential e-vehicle usage in 2025 never mind 2030.

Bmac your integrity is understood. Your analysis is trivially simple, you keep saying it's of little concern to you, but you keep coming back...

Absolutely load balance by storage that can be moved around unlike giant batteries.

with Jim's track record of lying through his back teeth (whole pension in, out, oops not really out, probably not the stupid risk he said he'd taken in the first place either, he's probably read it and understood it (doubt the latter though).

why to invest? Because your research suggests you should.

https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/aluminum-air-batteries/?fbclid=IwAR1JAtmWpWuW3nac4sT92YVqcjCLGBj8xXBna2BAUunNFieIW3gDPor7WLc

All is not as the daily mail would have you believe.

Surprised but very pleased

it was 20% up today before the new website.

And we've been there before with AFC, although not as well prepared. I won't advise but i think there's still enough room to get interesting.

I think that there is a market for HydroX-cell(s) for homes, and decarbonising heating for some areas at least. We're on oil in our village, I'd happily switch to an electric boiler, with an ammonia tank feeding a fuel cell, and the heat from the FC being reused. Oil prices fluctuate massively, ammonia i'd expect to be more constant. We've all got oil boilers and great big fuel tanks so we've got the space...

a 400Kw cell charging 100 cars is going to be similar to charging from a 3pin plug at home and not very useful, the big chargers are running at upwards of 50Kw, so that'll be 8 or less. And is fast chargers that people want/need as you can get a decent lump of charge in a 30 min stopover.

Southern, I think we just disagree in a minor way about the immediate importance of it, Ionger term yes it'll be useful, but to the original question of making the sp 'rocket' (or making a shorter cack their pants) i'm not convinced it'll do much for a few days at least (rocket in my opinion would be another large increase in sp in the next 24-48 hrs)

However availability dates for products might be one of those pieces of information that is unique to the website and important, it'll let people plan and show how close we really are.

The only reason the website would cause the sp to 'rocket' is if it contains some information that wasn't already available, it's going to take those that are interested a few days to digest it and determine that, so my gut feel is it won't change it. Any institutions would be talking to them separately to get an idea of what they do so they can make their own decision of where it might be in n years time, and it'll institutional buyers that'll cause it to move imo. Sales will help this massively.

In my mind my holding was written off, I was just hopeful, nothing concrete enough to recommend to anyone, I stand by my comment.

I've heard slow and don't let it empty, so overnight 3-7kw charging is best. You might also find that early models were worse and that the software that manages the charge rate vs fullness vs temp vs other characteristics is improving. Leaf's in particular don't have great cooling do they? and struggle to charge after a good run.

Seems that how it is charged is important, there are tales of Taxi fleets (Portsmouth/Plymouth?) that are still holding good charge after many years of abuse, and Tesla's with 95% after several years, not sure what rules should be followed though.

Athanasius, and the bulldog spirit, don't forget that, we can drown our sorrows in it when the clusterf&ck is fully exposed, unless bulldog spirit is a euphemism for dog wee.

It'd be nice to hear that they were aware of the problem and it happens under xyz circumstances and will be resolved by abc changes to the system. Seems solvable to me.

My gut feel is that there is a pressure differential to be maintained to allow flow, and as the car's tank gets fuller the pressure in the tank gets higher, at some point there would have to be a cut off to say that the pressures are too close to each other to allow sufficient flow and it stops. Some suppliers might have a tighter tolerance or a higher source pressure than others.

There's been a mention of ITM in a car review, seems we have trouble filling up particularly high. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/full-gas-6-weeks-hydrogen-powered-car
Personally I feel that the article can be ridiculed for seeming to think that driving 80 miles, on expensive fuel to refill is acceptable and workable. But that will change. Performance isn't great, that may change. I think that some applications will benefit more than others.

I would like to see an explanation of the filling issues though.