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AP, yes I got that bit, understand that some big players here.. and hence my question earlier about the float/liquidity which WG kindly put to bed.
De-risked is one word.. potential ?? does this change what you think SYME could be / could do?
Tinker, would you want to be invested with two big investment companies who hold least 45% of syme shares indirectly and another that holds 20/25% ..
Now compare that to the market cap and apply the RNS;s especially the banking RNS ..
The decision can only be yours to make
Good luck
AP I was looking at the link you sent yesterday and spotted that Belgrave Capital Management Ltd were part of Ceresio but totally missed Eurofinleading Fiduciaria SpA were on their list too :-0
TBH I got carried away researching Globalcapital Life Insurance Ltd instead, also with 4.98% of shares, as I thought they were a company in my area, but they are also a large Malta based financial company with links to Italy and Switzerland. The chairman is also a Board Member of Centtrip Ltd, a London-based fintech company regulated by the UK Financial Conduct Authority
https://www.globalcapital.com.mt/
Will this special info that WG and AP have unearthed push the sp up significantly?
My other question would be, if we've (WG,AP etc) blown the secret, could this bring forward any news? Only asking as I was hoping to get one more payday in at these prices
Parm, look at this thread earlier on WG Remarks on who is Blanca ceresio.. look at their website see the link between most the companies WG posted here from the register
Once you don’t take our word for anything we say, and look into it yourself you will see why we are talking about the register.
Where the free float had disappeared too and why I mas we have two big big players investing here
apunter2, if i read it enough times, YES, I'm getting there, you guys are really digging in, which is so educational. What does it mean for us small folk, or we are part of a bigger machine than initially thought. THANK YOU
AP,
I think we can join the dots (sort of),
Don't think we really understand what that means for SYME, us, the sp etc. I do think it's positive (understatement), but doubt we, certainly I grasp the possibilities/potential?
ATB
Same as.
50p gets me and my family everything we need.
(Might just hold a sneaky million back for the quids in party mind!)
You have double the shares for half the price :) 50p? That would be a huge MCAP.
Tinker, ok will try
The share register, weather posted here showing companies with 4.98% holding in syme shares.
All these are connected to Blanca Ceresio.
Weather and Micky1 did DD on the Ceresio and shows how big they really are. And just wow and I don’t say that lightly.
Now my argument is because these holding are in the register they are separate to the indirect share holding by this leading European firm.
I base my argument on an AND in the banking RNS
That shows the separation between this leading EU firm and Ceresio.
I also argue that the sell from Ceresio went to this EU firm that resides in 1AF2 a investment vehicle
Make sense ?
Mark, I have 10m at a cost of £13k, want sp to get to 50p and I'm gone
Weather, without a doubt now. I have said, for a while now all this has been planned from minute one.
We are picking at threads here but the register doesn’t lie either do the RNS’s
Direct and indirect holding, we were told and there it is in the register of shares.
Worse though I read it and posted the bloody link and I still missed it hahahah
Sounds to me like this is a long term holde in respect of future dividends? Am I reading this right. I'd rather several thousand a year in dividends in the long term than some profit a year down the line personally
apunter2/Weathergeek, for us no brainers, can you please put into simple mans terms the conversation you are having here. Even an analogy. Much appreciated as is all your research on here.
Yeah, I get you AP. What I'm saying is, they may be more connected than we think. Different companies yes, but the investors who control those are not as far apart as it may seem. I think a lot of pre planning has gone into this.
Weather to me it’s two another investor
Why because of what I just posted the sell from Ceresio to what eventually went into this investment vehicle called 1AF2,
Make sense?
Haha, couldn't miss it AP. Who's giving AZ the money?? More ownership via the TAG group.. ? Or another investor?
"We invest the assets of our customers in the same tools we select to manage our own assets, following a logic of co-investment with the managers to whom we entrust our assets."
Weather IMHO
These pair (Ceresio and the this leading European firm) have been doing the business for a while
Supply@Me has been notified by Orchestra Group that it has acquired 1,630,000,000 ordinary shares of 0.002p each in the capital of the Company at 0.6756 pence per SYME share from Ceresio SIM S.p.A..
Follow?
INV 4
I didn’t get in early either.
I bought 2 million at .71 not good.
Then the rest between .47 and .52 to average down to .6
Is what it is. If numbers are correct for growth what is .1 of a penny
Gla
Weather. “ Are these also invested in TAG?”
Did you not notice me going mental over an AND in an RNS
is pleased to announce that it has entered into a strategic agreement ("Agreement") with a leading European Alternative Investment Firm (the "Financial Partner") and SYME's shareholders, 1AF2 S.r.l. and The AvantGarde Group S.p.A. ("Co-investors"), to acquire a bank in Europe (the "Bank").
This is all great stuff guys, all will be revealed shortly i believe. Gla
So with those 4 holdings under Ceresio, Potentially more via other vehicles we don't know about. Then once the Bank is funded, the Bank can hold 2% of SYME shares. That's a large SYME shareholder.
Thats the thing with companies, as each is a "person" under law. The holdings of a large firm like Ceresio can be split up to gain a competitive advantage in building a stake in SYME. I think @Savvy and the 30% may be true. They may even want to keep under 25% and leave control a little. At the moment its just under 20% we know about and growing.
Are these also invested in TAG?
Inv4,
ATB.. as has been mentioned, everything is relative. I hope that this will be at least 2-5p by xmas, the next milestone will be what it delivers by end of March. Those are my dates I know if it does what I hope.. it is proven, the markets are awoken and I can kind of sit back. Slice if and when the sp allows but if it starts to deliver .. happy days ;
Weather don’t forget DTR1 for indirect holdings
Who’s in 1AF2, if that list is direct holdings
See 2