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I think the Guru Myosotis was indeed in some kind of employ of Sirius...now the crap has hit the fan there doesnt seem to be any trace of his posting history....vanished just like the thousands of pounds of shareholder money
Tex
I agree if it's a no vote an 'interloper' could well make themselves know, but if they do I think it shall most likely be one of our II providing funding to save their own skins after a failed and preferred yes vote. I can't see any party not invested here at the moment and looking to pounce waiting for a no vote is what I mean.
TeX
I agree if it's a no vote an 'interloper' could well make themselves know, but if they do I think it shall most likely be one of our II providing funding to save their own skins after a failed and preferred yes vote. I can't see any party not invested here at the moment and looking to pounce waiting for a no vote is what I mean.
Just stumbled across this video - and they wonder why we were taken in - one of many slick videos and presentations to pull us in or reconfirm what we already thought we knew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYCrrznPqyY
happened to the self proclaimed Guru called Myosotis that used to post daily waffle on here ?....he seems to have vanished along with my many thousands of pounds here....seems mighty odd to me as he was constantly banging on about the engineering side of things Sirius day in day out...now not a trace of him....maybe he was working for Sirius along ....
Please could you email details
Paul@fundsirius.com
Thankyou
I tend to agree 15Lives, but Odey made the following comment in their email....
It is Odey’s opinion that such an interloper would most likely appear between the date that Sirius shareholders vote on the proposed transaction, and the date of the Court Hearing.
If you are a nominee shareholder, with Sirius shares bought through a bank or Investor company, ask your company for their Stewardship policy.
It should be that they will take your vote for or against the Sirius proposed takeover. This should be that all votes, for and against are collated and the totals input to CREST (the UK settlement system) and taken into account.
Any shareholders NOT placing a vote will not be included in the totals. Companies such as Hargreaves Lansdown have such a Stewardship policy. Their closing date is the 26th February.
If you want to vote then this is the route but be quick. Votes can be registered by phone and Email. Good Luck
Today spoke with someone who worked on site but got paid off with a few others 3 months ago. Two of his former colleagues have got their jobs back. The rumour is another shift is going to kick off if not already done so. I have no reason to doubt it at all. So what's it all about Sirius please tell us.
Hi Guy's
Not posted here for a long time but for all those heavily lost out i feel your pain,being a long term invester in Aim i can fully relate to what your going through as im still losing out to this day.
However interesting to see the big trades still going through from time to time.
Hope something amazing happens here to give the faithful a chance to recoup there losses no matter how long it takes.
Infiniteang
I have to disagree with your overview. Surely no other party wanting to grab Sirius is going to wait until after the vote in case it goes in AA favour.
The bottom line is that this week we who have claimed how fantastic and wonderful Sirius is with it's state of the art mine and potentially disruptive product with a hundred year life are about to find out how much others agree with us.
If this goes into next week with no other bidders emerging then many of us (myself included ) shall surely have been deluded and kidding ourselves. If it's as revolutionary to the fertiliser industry as we've been saying and on the back of which we've ploughed our money at least one other interested party simply has to show itself.
Interview gives several punters-
-Great project.
-Funds and Qt could readily help giving added value to II’s and PIs holdings above and beyond AA option.
- it’s a matter of seeing who’s interested , if anyone in this clearly significant 100 year prize?
AA getting a steal here.. dreadful outcome for most.
If it helps anyone....
Most likely too late now for you to get a share transferred into your own name from a nominee account like Hargreaves (they cut off on Friday)
Nominee accounts will lump all votes together and act as ONE voter so if 1000 vote NO 600 vote YES the nominee will vote 400 NO (or should do anyway.
At the Scheme of arrangement vote on 3rd March it requires 75% of the voters to say yes and 75% of the shares voted by the voters to say yes, otherwise the SOA fails. So if you transferred a single share to your own name then you can vote as singe voter.
If the SOA fails then there are a number of possibilities:
1) AA make a takeover bid - with a potentially raised offer to ensure the outcome
2) SM file for administration - I personally find this highly unlikely unless AA immediately say they won't make a takeover bid. But even then SM would need to be considerate of everything going on before they called administration.
3) Other parties declare their interest
there are no guarantees here but IMO AA deserve to be put through the wringer for suggesting SM private investors make bad investment decisions. After all, if we hadn't decided to invest then SM wouldn't exist and there wouldn't be a Tier One investment opportunity for them to swoop upon like a parasite.
Scotman, my agenda is to salvage my investment as best I see fit and that’s betting on a no vote followed by a rescue. I appreciate there is a downside risk of wipeout. The upside is dividends at 10/13/20 mta production.
Insinuate what you like but I’m transparent and my belief is genuine. In the fullness of time we’ll find out whether Ive been wasting my time and money advocating no but please don’t ever question my sincerity or motive.
Infinite. More importantly any non certificated votes for the shareholder vote will be lumped together and classed as only one person, and therefore only 1 vote. Hence the need to get a certificate.
Directors are no different from anyone else,that has been a misconception by many on this site who seem to think the title of director nullifys self interest.Whilst there is a legal obligation to act in the best interests of the company (not share holders they are second) if a deal benifits them as well would anyone in all honesty say it would not swing the outcome.Forget morals its business.To donate to charity before a penny profit was made showed this board was way off track years ago
Shareholders can protect their shares showing interest in buying bonds which pay healthy interest in the proposal
Please visit the web site, take the survey and tell everyone
Open to everyone not just shareholders. www.FundSirius.com
“ No spin Scotman. That’s why I predicated it with “if”. Which side of the bed did you get out of today the sack Fraser side or kiss his ‘arris side. Dr Jekyl and Mr Hide got nothing on you. ”
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Really? Nah, I guess I’m probably a bit more like most genuine followers of this project since it’s inception.
Sometimes I still want to be supporting it and sometimes I feel shareholders have been very let down.
I do however appreciate it was never goi g to be complete until finance was over the line
You may recall ( if you’ve been here with a longtermview that I have very often warned of this hurdle.
Unlike you. I don’t post with any agenda. Just how I may feel at the time of posting
Right now I couldn’t care less.
Take care
(A 5.1p fall can bank you some profits).
LTV ,
Hope ?
Who knows what terms of employment they are all on and how any of them would feel about working for someone else ..
Everyone has mouths to feed no matter what level your qualifications are ..
I'm sure they are all privy to a hell of a lot more than we are ..
We don't know who may be leaving or not! this is just guesswork here from all of us !
But ffc there is no AAL deal, just an AAL offer. And I hope the offer ends up where he sun don’t shine
LTV
It would be easy to see Clark moving on IF he knew of the aal deal .. I'm guessing but aal were involved with ICL when he worked at Boulby ???
So i understand that Hargreaves Lansdowne will be consolidating there Bids as one large bid. If it is as is believed to be that they have around 22% of the Shares through them, then if the Recommended Margin for AA.L to take over is 75% then that leaves only 3% margin of votes left which are allowed to be "NO" which in all honesty is very small.
So will be very interesting if H&L vote No ?
According to Companies House, a company director has 7 principal duties (Gov.uk/ companies house). These include:
a)Acting in a way that they consider in good faith would be most likely to promote the success of the company for the benefit of its shareholders, and
b) Managing conflicts of interest such as situations where the Director may be considering taking advantage, on a personal basis, of property, information or opportunity which belongs to the company.
I wonder to what extent we shareholders believe these duties have been adequately discharged?
Very Interesting to the point that, it is all up in the air at the moment, but from my view i believe there is a Hidden bidder in the Wings waiting to pounce when AA.L fails with shareholders and that could start a bidding war. I think other companies have waited to see if someone would put a low bid in and what the ramification would be. Now it is evident of the feelings so this could be all out bidding after the potential "NO" vote and this will see the stock rise again.
No spin Scotman. That’s why I predicated it with “if”. Which side of the bed did you get out of today the sack Fraser side or kiss his ‘arris side. Dr Jekyl and Mr Hide got nothing on you.
Not sure why employees should be heading for the lifeboats. We’re we not told AAL would keep the same plan for at least the next two years.
Or was that a lie too.
Spin that.