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“Show me a country with low immigration and I will show you a poor country”
Qatar. 0.8 migrants per 1000 population and fifth per head of capita gdp at $114,648
It's not immigration folks, it's drugs! Quady, you must be a wind up merchant. Cannabis has gone from class C to class B, by the way.
A fair system that gives everyone what they want would be if those people who want to allow immigrants into our country offer them a place in their home and pay for them
You taking any in Quady? Or do you just want to spend our £s and ruin our lifestyles?
Pbow my figures are correct everyone talks about net migration.
Most of the people leaving are Students that want to return home.
There were stories of people using universities to come here.
Guess what Fake news that accounted for no more than 2,000 people and believed by the nutters as being overrun.
That today has almost ended.
The government are at this moment discussing the family visa, so we await to see the results.
Now last bit about students that remain.
Where do you think we get a large percentage of engineers, Doctors and Scientist's from.
From these people who create many new jobs.
Show me a country with low immigration and I will show you a poor country.
Quady your figures are wrong.
In the year ending June 2023 1,180,000 people came to the UK. At the same time 508,000 left giving a net figure of 672,000.
In the year ending June 2023 it was a net figure of 745,000 which I assume you are talking about.
As to the students..... its a back door to live in the UK. I work in the Middle East and I know numerous people using this purely as they state "to get a passport". They arent going to Cambridge, they are going to East London University, or event Wigan and Leigh College. Its an absolute con and the useless government does nothing about it. In year ending 2023, 129,000 graduate visas were issued - that's 129,000 people who will not be leaving the UK, and compares to the 210,000 visas issued in 2020 which is when they will probably have started their course.
The family visa is also abused. You can bring your family over if you have a certain amount of money in the bank. Certain communities in the UK pool their money to meet the threshold to allow for someone to bring their wife (who will most likely also be their cousin) over. They will then move the money to the next person. Its a racket. Again I personally know people who have done this.
I split my time with work 50/50 between Central London and the North… and I can vouch for the effect, massive, unquestioned immigration has had on London.. Is simply unrecognisable from the city it was just 15 years ago.
The huge numbers of Romanian and Albanian pick pocket gangs operating around Oxford St and King’s Cross areas continue unabated. That particular problem only really got looked at when they created a tent city closer to wealthy areas like Kensington…
Areas like Tower hamlets that surround Canary Wharf, are bursting at the seems with immigrants and their ballooning families all living on benefits.
And now every 2 weeks central London becomes a no go zone for any Jewish residents, and most other residents as it’s now taken over by Middle Eastern protesters waving Palestinian flags, shouting race hate, that goes unquestioned by the met.
London is now totally different to most peoples view, or recollection if they know it from their past visits.. and that is down to uncontrolled mass immigration, but mostly down to a refusal to actually integrate and assimilate in to western life and adhere to western values.. That is something that should be enforced without sympathy or questions.
I agree with you Ortherncopper,
I have a personal interest in what you said regarding them getting free everything, 20 years ago I emigrated to Australia, I didn't have a degree or a profession that was on the list so I had to go as self employed. In order to do this I moved from Yorkshire to Norfolk and started my own business with a very small amount of money, it took me ten years to make the business big enough to be worth buying out and having enough turnover and cash at bank to qualify for a visa.
Ten years:
A proven ability to make money and not be a burden, in fact a proven ability to be an asset to the country.
They are the kind of people we want and need, self starters who come with skills and cash.
Not some wet back who's chucked his identity in the English Channel making it hard to send him home or find out he is murderer or/and ra pist, criminal etc.
The flood gates have been opened and there is no will on the Left to close them. Look too at the USA where Biden is telling the Texas governor not to stop them.
Best post of the lot orthern
What kind of “limit” would people who support immigration like to see? None at all? Imagine if a billion make their way here
You cannot support a rapidly expanding population without increasing services and building new infrastructure. And you cannot do that without bast economic growth
And you can’t have vast growth without cheap energy
We need a cabinet who can put basic maths ahead of woke Willy waving
If you are a highly qualified and experienced professional, in areas such as engineering, sciences, medical professions, then welcome…. As long as you have secured employment here in advance, in roles our country needs.
We simply do not need, nor should not be funding, the lifestyle of people that just want to live here, because it’s better than where they come from.
It should just be basic common sense, that if you come here, you do not qualify for any monetary benefits at all, until you have paid in to the system for a stated number of years.
You do not qualify for any council housing, or funded accommodation.. you start at the back of the queue.
If you are a professional, that will contribute over the years of being here, then you should be welcome to come.
If you’re an illegal, just wanting a hotel room and some benefits, you qualify for nothing and should be removed.
It might sound harsh to some, but it’s fair…. And would see a very quick end to the UK being seen as a promised land to hundreds of thousands of people that we don’t need, can’t afford and can’t vouch for their intentions or willingness to integrate…
All this should be obvious…
How is it rac.ist to want an end to immigration? I don’t care what their race is we cannot afford for them to be here, both financially and on grounds of our own safety
We need to only import the skills we’re short of and net contributors to our economy (by that I mean pay enough tax to “break even” for their share of what government spend per head, which minimum wage fruit pickers do not)
Quady
If an illegal visitor came through Heathrow do you think they would be given the same sort of treatment as one of the 500 migrants who popped over in a dinghy last Thursday?
Even more so do you think they would complain about their free board and lodgings……
I can't deny drugs are a problem but they are everywhere in the world and most of it comes from the Middle East.
However that's off subject, we are talking about the cost to society and the economy of Illegal immigrants.
Tesla we do have a say on who we let in .
About 600,000 of last year's 745,000 figure were students and their families.
UK universities are some of the best in the world, and need that money to continue being the best.
Rac.ists like slug would turn them away.
I read it in the times.
It just sums up this country.
It’s like guys changing sex and being allowed to compete in sport.
If you are born with two X Chromosomes then stick to women’s sport, same goes for XY stick to male sports anything else is wrong.
By all means have a transgender category but don’t let them win every women’s event……FFS
Jezzoo the biggest problem in our country is drug's.
Look what's happened when we went soft on cannabis.
We now have dealer's everywhere and they are a large part of violent crime.
Build more prisons, start locking them up for meaningful periods of time, and watch life in our country improve.
Seriously Imran Khan’s country is filtered by LSE
quady
we should have a choice who we let in.
can you imagine going to ****stan, living there and marrying a national from the country.
it all goes belly up and you go to a court in ****stan and they provide an interpreter for you at their tax payers cost. whilst you have been sending all the benefits you have been getting back to the uk for your family.
it’s amazing how many of these so called uk citizens have a different story for the tax authorities as they do for hmcts…………
Eventually the govt will give up on supporting the illegals ( I don't mean the legals please note Quady), already the narrative is something akin to care in the community IE fend for yourself. Every day there are hundreds of these people disappearing into the country, working illegally, possibly criminally. Sunak is already talking about getting costs down this way.
So when we get to the stage where you can't walk down the street day or night without being accosted or much worse by people who in general have come from countries were street crime and begging is the norm you will wish,( privately or course, you wouldn't want admit you made a mistake) something more pro active had been done.
And that's not being ra cist as I don't know were they are from.
The govt in this country is complicit anyway, the population is ageing and we will need a small army to wipe our backsides when we are old. Ironically that's exactly what we are getting, a small army who instead of wiping our backsides, theyu'll be kicking them.
If you can't see that you are a just denier of a different kind.
Okay Tesla found the story on the lawyer.
If you read the GB news story, then they say she is being sued for saying women menstruate.
However if you read the local newspaper you find out they identify her as the lawyer who said only women menstruate, but she is being sued for hated against individual's.
Slug for Prime Minister. Vote Slug. Deport Quady with his mates on the dinghies.
Interesting post Slug you want to deport people who hate our way of life.
Doesn't that placement you at the top of that list.
Anywhere they choose. Put petrol in their dinghies and point them back out to sea
The fact that we have no idea who they are is exactly what should worry you. We have unidentifiable young men coming into the country in their millions, many of whom could (and will be) from movements that hate us and our way of life
Our streets will not be safe. We get no benefit from this only negatives and it should cease immediately by any viable means
Go home where, they have no documents and most will be granted asylum.
I could process the entire backlog of immigration in under a minute
Default No to everybody, go home.