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Just confirming the placing bubbles
Tr1 rns holding by Chinese well well ,was mentioned this morning
After hours RNS re chinese holding
Hi Add this is my two pence on A trades. AT trades or automatic trades just mean that the orders are placed directly into the trading book on the exchange by a party who has direct access. As in if you look at the order book on L2 you will see all the buy and sell orders that have been submitted into the book and trades occur when buy and sell orders are matched by the matching engine. When you or I trade with our brokers such as HL or whoever, we are trading off book with a market maker, so our trades are flagged as O trades. Our orders aren't going directly into the order book.
Market makers, broker dealers, banks etc will all have direct access to the book. The electronic trading businesses of dealer banks will allow their clients (such as hedge funds) to use their direct market access to place their orders. Retail investors like us can also get DMA if we want through various brokers who offer the service, and if we wanted to could then trade directly in the order book. Personally I have no desire to do this, as I'm not a day trader and whether my order gets filled at 16.72 or 16.75 is not going to make much difference to me in the long run.
This is also why I think it's meaningless to worry about "buys" and "sells" when looking purely at A trades... they are trades that have occurred because a buy and a sell order have been matched by the book, so every trade is both a buy and a sell depending on which side you are on.
If the trade is flagged as ALGO then it means the buy or sell order (or both) was generated by an algorithm. In my opinion this could be anyone, from algorithmic trading funds, HFT traders, automated risk management or execution engines at broker dealers, market makers managing their books, or as quady said it could be individual investors who have access to algo trading tools via their brokers. In other words, you really don't know who was behind any given AT trade or why it was traded, and therefore in my opinion it's not worth worrying about it. A trades and ALGO trades are just part of trading and unless you're a short term day trader I wouldn't spend time overanalysing them.
Quady, what a load of sh*te you saying I've told people this will be sold month after month. There are several posters on here who will back me up in saying I've always maintained there a host of outcomes here. My holding in this share is a fraction of what it used to be because I see it as a punt rather than a solid investment, and that's mainly because my average is far higher than yours, despite me having watching this since it traded between 1p and 4p. There is substantial risk here that people don't like to talk about but very much exists.
You can stop replying to me when I call you out for being an idiot all you want. The posters you missed from the list who you also don't reply to when asked questions you can't answer include two of the best on this board in rcgl2 and Bozi.
Like I said, I wouldn't bother replying to you myself if you weren't such a sanctimonious tw*t.
UT 1.4114 million
When you get algo listed beside it, it's just a repeated a trade.
Afternoon addicknt. No difference at all. I used to use a platform before PEPs came out.
It was around 6 pounds a month.
I just set a buy for say 10,000 shares of a company at say 15 pence a share.
Then I would set a sell for say 10,000 at 16 pence a share and you could add a date range if you wanted.
In the end I would set buys in say 10,000 share blocks and sell at a price that would get my money back including all charges, and be left with my profit in shares.
Good for portfolio building, but you must pick a share that you suspect is going to trade within a given range.
Solgold has been shown to be such a share even though I have never traded it. As my trading days are more or less over. To many sleepless nights.
A trades are automated which tend to be when a share price reaches a certain volume level ,o trades are open trades by pi's not by any other person ,fine margins can cause this in particular if there is demand for shares ,many hedge funds and institutions use this method imho correct me if am wrong ,this is my view on it ,also I see small trades as sells as an indicator that mms short of shares ,filling an order consequently that's perhaps the reason we've seen large buys after close imho
Seems happy the way things are looking
https://twitter.com/bigdude6669/status/1603422841890037760?s=46&t=G7BYZVpzGR60u3coQmKkFA
Q, am I right to think there's a difference between an A trade and an A trade with algo listed beside it? Presumably the former is not an algo trade? I'm also guessing private investor trades don't get listed as algo trades?
As you can tell, I have limited knowledge about the actual process of trading.
Q …. I don’t claim to know much about shorting …. That’s why I don’t offer any opinions on the subject and I certainly wouldn’t make sweeping statements like you did about the subject…. Unless I was damn sure I knew what I was talking about ….. bout time you wound your neck in mate
Afternoon addicknt I do use the fca page, just didn't realise you could see short positions on it.
Q, to be honest I was surprised you didn't know about the FCA page. In the same way as it's best to go the definitive source for info on trades i.e the Stock Exchange, it's best to use the FCA for short positions as they are the depository of regulatory reporting.
Of course you have to remember that many traders will use cfds to short and hedge and they are undisclosed so very difficult to get the whole picture of what is going on from just published information
Addicknt you can do A trades yourself, if you want to pay a monthly fee for a platform.
It's just normal trading expect people set buys and sells of a certain number of shares.
Some have algos that you can use and some you can write your own.
No DBW, you don't know what you're talking about.
I asked for evidence.
The site I use has been shown to be deficient by Not2sure.
So he has provided a service for all of us
I for one are grateful, as I now have an improved way of looking at shorts.
People like you don't show any evidence.
That's what this chatroom is for. To share information.
Not2sure has done that .
Bubble, virtually all of today's trades have been algo transactions. Hardly any O trades. I wish I understood what this really means! And by that, I don't mean speculation, but it would be good to know who's behind them.
The Os buying up the A's atm ,New one for me ,they need shares hmm:):)Red the book turning ?
They'll be more than a kiss in it if I get my £1.32 BNC lol:):):)
Lols Pinoooo
U see cookie told u I’d be the kiss of death lols…..
Bnc
“it just shows the people that say shorting of Solgold is happening talk utter rubbish” ?????
Good afternoon Not2sure.
I use the FCA website but wasn't aware of the short selling XLS spreadsheet.
A big thank you.
I have added this as a link, and trying to work out the difference between the tools I use.
Did you find it ?
Directors will see this through novice typo their