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Again Slug you listen to rubbish, have you ever used 111, you could be really ill and they would never send an Ambulance.
You would need to ring 999.
As for COVID you yet again show why you are by far the most unintelligent poster on here.
Imagine if we had never developed Vaccines.
How many would have died.
Quady, this chap is a paramedic and I think he explains the problem with the NHS absolutely perfectly
I’ll put it as simply as possible.
I’ve worked since 2001 as a Paramedic and seen it all unfold.
Everything working reasonably until 2004.
In 2004 the GP pay award doubled their wages overnight from 50K to 100K.
GP’s then took logical decision that working full time was now not worth it and so they all went part time.
Now 9/10 work part time and no one can see a GP.
The excess demand simply reverted to calling Ambulances or going straight to the hospital instead.
Now 999 calls, which used to be a trickle, are now incessant 24/7 going to jobs that the GP’s refuse to do.
NHS111 is a disaster, you only need to cough down the phone and they send an Ambulance.
The only place you can now be guaranteed of finding a GP these days is at your local golf course.
And that’s why the Ambulance service is queuing up in the carparks and the hospitals are groaning at the seams, with wasp stings and runny noses.
The imaginary Covid virus was the last straw.
The ONLY solution left is to charge for GP appointments, Ambulances and A&E.
That will deter the time wasters and free the NHS to get back to doing what it does best, treating genuinely ill people
Quady nothing has ever challenged your views on anything. You’ll still be claiming we’re going to prediction when this stock is paid out and cancelled
Free core services on the NHS but elective stuff done privately from Medicare insurance. Its initial concept was noble enough but it’s grown greedy tentacles that drain our resources.
Why should somebody from a foreign country who had never contributed a penny rock up and get free medical care paid for by the hours I do at a desk?
Perhaps we should gear up to defend ourselves just a Winston Churchill did awakening Britain up to the possibilities of war with Germany prior to 1939. The present threat is russia. Are we up to defend ourselves from thousands of drones arriving 24/24, hypersonic missile systems , mini tactical nuclear warheads etc....? I think NOT! Time to wake up!
You're wrong about me Slug.
But you are wrong about everything.
I always read evidence backed information that challenges my world view and over the years my views have changes.
Again a child's view on the NHS.
So those that don't contribute shouldn't get healthcare.
Pathetic and childish view.
So new born babies and children haven't paid in, so we should not offer them healthcare.
Nice Bozi and congratulations on confronting some of the issues we have in our Beautiful UK which is steadily being broken by bad political decisions. You get a rude awakening when you cross the Channel from Holland where everything works, your rail tickets are dirt cheap and trains are on time and clean as an example. Cities and towns are clean and people seem to have pride. Cities like Eindhoven provide the specialised machinery that Taiwan requires to produce Microchips! What's happened to our Industries? Iron and Steel on its knees as an example. How are we getting on with developing battery factories? Much, much more but enough said! LOL
UK could definitely move towards regaining some former glory, the Brain Power is here! But, at the rate we are going, just as the best young doctors leave, so many other striving youngsters also leave for distant shores, such a pity!
Im not going to argue with you all day Quady but you also read things that suit your opinion
Capitalism isn’t perfect but as they say it’s the least bad system we know.
The problem with the NHS like all socialist idea is that penalises those who work hard and contribute to the benefit of those who don’t
It’s a bit like you pooling cash as a family to get a nice leg of lamb for Easter dinner. The leaving your front door wide open. First your neighbour comes in and takes a seat, then half the street, then most of the town. Nobody’s chipping in and there’s hardly anything to go round
That’s immigration and socialism, a toxic combination that we’re facing right now
Slug you talk like a child who believe he has the answers. But, neither socialism or capitalism work.
But both offer insights into certain aspects of how a society can be built from the ground up.
Social capital, is definitely the way, but we also have to inspire and create the work effort.
Then their are other aspects of society that doesn't even touch the sides.
But the work in crime and punishment holds some of the answers for building a successful society.
The problem with you slug is you don't read.
Not properly anyway.
You look on the internet to read things that agree with your world views.
Problem is the more you read the more you convince yourself that you are right.
That is always the profile of the most unintelligent that walk this Earth.
You fit it to a tee.
Https:// twitter.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1774138400037339240
If only they could have got EVs into the last line
Socialism never has and never will work anywhere. The problem is you remove all incentive and ambition. You end up with 50m bin men and no surgeons
A race to the bottom
I'm not being used to usher anything in. I just have a different opinion to you.
Everything can and should be optimised 1984. That includes the civil service, and local councils and the NHS.
It's a choice between striving for a better version of your preferred capitalist ways or for things to be done differently. The proof is in the pudding in that what we're doing now isn't working. Politicians are running around acting in their best interests, filling their own pockets. The cronyism of capitalists knows no bounds.
I'd be calling for major reforms across all our services but we don't have the money to pay for it and no politician will take the risks required.
Broken Britain indeed. Utterly deconstructed after almost 15 years of capitalist "I'm alright Jackie lad" greed and corruption. Best thing is, now the coffers are getting bare, you'll all be looking to emigrate somewhere else. I hope you're all going to be valuable migrants who contribute to the societies you join. Not likely...
Slug you don't even have a basic understanding of economics.
Otherwise you would understand why the NHS for all it's failures is the best model in the world.
Sorry but nationalisation doesn’t work, just look at how the civil service blob is frustrating literally everything we try and do.
We must be the only nation with a “free” health service, and it’s appalling and expensive. Other models that encourage private enterprise work better elsewhere
Look at the money councils waste just because they can. If you’re unaccountable and have no reason to perform to secure funding then you get dire performance and waste
Apparently what used to be known as common sense and a basic grasp of maths and economics nowadays makes one a tin hat conspiracy theorist and a nasty gammon
You idiots can’t see you’re being used to usher in communism
Bozi, I'd get done for libel!
There are exceptions and some of them are very capable individuals.
A friend of mine from university set up the office of KKR in London and then went on co-found a hugely successful pe outfit of his own. He wanted to back my company in the purchase of a US competitor. We flew over to the East Coast and spent three days visiting their factories. We then met up at the airport to discuss his thoughts.
I've never heard such a brilliant deconstruction of a business. He took their company apart line-by-line and concluded by saying he was prepared to pay $100m. They wanted $200m, so we flew home and that was that. Six months later they sold the company for $110m. As I said, some of them are really very good, but they're in the minority.
Add - get writing that book. I'd buy it!
Spot on SM 8:42.
Not like we don't have the most expensive and least reliable services now is it...
Maybe if country's politicians aren't capable of coordinating the efficient management of these services under state operation then we should stop blowing smoke up our own backsides and acknowledge that we're a useless collective.
But know, instead we want to hide behind the pageantry and tradition of St George and the Union. King and country blah blah and blah.
Spot on 8:50, 9:09 et al as well. Maybe it's about time we British strive to do better instead of thinking we're the dogs doodahs and forever looking down on everyone else.
Q, that was my point about changing the law and appointing a receiver who acts for the State. In other words, a suspension of the normal process of receivership, whereby the assets are sold to the highest bidder and the proceeds divi'ed out secured creditors. Instead there should be no distributions and the secured creditors should lose the lot. As is normal in receiverships, the shareholders are stuffed. And you're right, it would cause an uproar, but someone in government needs to have the balls to bite the bullet.
I'm an ardent supporter of privatization, but the water industry was a step too far.
Quady, probably the most opinionated, delicate,
Professionally offended poster on here.
Just posted.
"Interesting on how much we agree on addicknt" .
Now there's a thing
I would also suspend dealing in Thames Water until the infrastructure is fixed and functioning.
RE Thames Water, I read this in the comment section of the FT on renationalising the asset:
The company throws off cash (before fines) - shareholders have failed / give it to bond holders - full debt to equity conversion (with dividend/ cash return locked) - subsequent reinvestment of cash from business into infrastructure.
Ok addicknt, but the shareholders would argue that they own the assets and any receiver surely would have to sell off the assets in order to wind up the water authorities.
I am unsure what is the best way.
Maybe a regulator with teeth.
No dividends or bonuses paid, until we sort out sewage dumping and leaks.
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Let's see how long you last this time skint as you've said this many times before and them find the need to mention me. I will copy and paste your post when and if you mention me again. Agreed so no need to reply.
Q, when Thames goes bust a state receiver should take charge and the normal laws suspended. By this, I mean that the financial creditors should get nothing so that the new entity is completely debt free. It's time the banks took some pain.They took the rewards, now they should absorb the risks.
I know the counter argument has always been that such an approach would mean they'd stop investing in the future, but that's utter balls. If they did that their own businesses would fail.
Let the buggers suffer for once.
Interesting on how much we agree on addicknt.
Yes water needs to be in public ownership.
However it's how we do it in a cost efficient way.